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Message: [QUOTE="geordi, post: 5192960, member: 232"] Also as a big Yankee fan for over 65-70 years, I absolutely agree. However, I do believe that the Yankees tend to retire numbers of players that shouldn't be considered. For example, why is #1 retired? Billy Martin was a mediocre player at best, but he developed that relationship with Steinbrenner that got him considered. I appreciate what Joe Torre did as manager, but retire his number 6? Nope. Maris had one great year. Rizzuto begged and begged to get number 10 retired. Munson's 15 was retired because of the emotion of his death. O'Neill, Pettitte, Williams? Now they are complaining to the league that they don't have enough numbers to give out after coaches, bullpen catchers, managers get theirs. Goes back to the Hall of Fame (in all sports). They've become the Hall of the Very Good. Lots of guys don't belong there in my opinion. [/QUOTE]