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Message: [QUOTE="bags27, post: 2211810, member: 6761"] Checkmate (great and apposite handle!) has it right: those who are willing to fight can pretty much wear anyone down. There is no consistent justice in these cases. Education is a moving target. How many non-athletes took the course; how does that compare with similar "gut courses" at other comparable institutions, etc. etc etc. If UNC wants to go to the mat on this, it will likely play for a draw--which is its hope. I have served as an external accreditor at similar institutions. I have never heard discussed by teams I've participated in anything so narrowly focused as the standards of an individual course or even a cluster of courses within a program. That this was identified by the external team suggests to me that it was exceptionally egregious and very likely a source of complaint by students and faculty in other areas of the university. And that leads me to the conclusion that UNC may win its battle against the NCAA but will lose the respect of faculty and students at its own institution who will only grow even more cynical about its leadership. But that's nothing new today: I reluctantly admit that higher education is now largely a commodity, a big business; and like religion and medicine before it, is quickly losing the overall respect and admiration of the public. [/QUOTE]