UConn's Strategy Against the NCAA Has Been Poor

[Chief00]

Quite frankly, Herbst has taken the wrong approach against the NCAA. I recently read an article by a guy named Branch in Atlantic Monthly magazine. It may shock people but the NCAA does get sued by people they completely victimize; and the NCAA often backs down and pays out big settlements.
In hindsight UConn should have had a much more aggressive approach rather than sit back and let em smack you approach. True the big/elite schools almost always get away with either no punishment or a slap on the wrist - so maybe we thought let's not offend anyone and we will get that treatment - Wrong!

Also pretty poor Attorneys on our side - the rate of success on these type of appeals - = 0%. But then again they get to bill UConn for a million dollars. Herbst has got to be smarter than that.

We should have taken a victimized student vs. institutional perspective.

 

[UofCT]

Don't attack Herbst. She has done a stellar job

 

[huskyniner]

Don't attack Herbst. She has done a stellar job

In what regard? I don't get why everyone loves Herbst so much. I appreciate the quick movement and fundraising on the practice facility front, but we still have a very unstable future in terms of our coach, conference realignment, and now the depletion of our roster with the APR issue. Why does everyone praise her so much?

 

[rip7774]

I agree with victimized kids. I would have plastered Bradley out there as orphan kid made good (or great IMO) and the NCAA is punishing him and his stellar GPA. Put a f'in face on this!!!

I don't see why we don't sue unless they think more recent standards apply. Big schools like UF can have 30 kids arrested in Meyer's 4 years and FSU can have widespread academic cheating scandal but neither school got anything. I would argue both of these were far worse than what UConn did.

What do u have to lose? Get Herbst on ESPN and make case. Hit all the talk shows. She is photogenic and the case is an easy one to make.

 

[Chief00]

Herbst is not well liked by her peers.....is what I hear.

 

[Dogbreath2U]

Herbst is not well liked by her peers.....is what I hear.

Who are the peers you are referring to? Other university presidents?

 

[upstater]

It's the same stuff we heard about the other BE Pres's not liking her.

But given who the other Pres's are, that's a badge of honor.

Her peers are top research 1 university President's, not the heads of Providence, G'Town and Villanova.

If anyone matches up, it's the Pres. of Rutgers, but he's got his own problems so who really cares what he thinks.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Herbst is not well liked by her peers.....is what I hear.

I knew when I saw Blaney and Dyson chiefing a blunt behind Gampel last month that this was all going to go badly.

 

[Edward Sargent]

It's the same stuff we heard about the other BE Pres's not liking her.

But given who the other Pres's are, that's a badge of honor.

Her peers are top research 1 university President's, not the heads of Providence, G'Town and Villanova.

If anyone matches up, it's the Pres. of Rutgers, but he's got his own problems so who really cares what he thinks.

 

[Edward Sargent]

I think you are a little off there. G town is the most difficult school to get into in the country

 

[Hoophound]

I think you are a little off there. G town is the most difficult school to get into in the country

What he means is "Sue doesn't view the academic and athletic future of UConn to be at all like the presidents of much smaller, private Catholic schools probably view their schools' future."

No matter how great Georgetown is, it isn't a major public research university that will play both of the major sports at the very highest level. They are different animals and she probably drives some of the other league presidents crazy because she looks out for UCONN and not the bball schools.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

In what regard? I don't get why everyone loves Herbst so much. I appreciate the quick movement and fundraising on the practice facility front, but we still have a very unstable future in terms of our coach, conference realignment, and now the depletion of our roster with the APR issue. Why does everyone praise her so much?

How was anyone of this her fault? I'm not blindly defending her, but I think we have to be fair here.

She wasn't even here when the kids that messed up the APR were students.

How was she supposed to control who the ACC invited?

Calhoun's signed for 2 more years and until he says otherwise, he's going to be the coach.

 

[specialisthusky]

Herbst is not well liked by her peers.....is what I hear.

this is actually very accurate if you are referring to uconn employees. She has pretty much cleaned house at the university and job security is not high among UConn employees right now.

what this has to do with her handling the ncaa bs i have no idea but its true

 

[CAHUSKY]

I think you are a little off there. G town is the most difficult school to get into in the country

Really? I can't find any rankings that list GTown among the top 20 lowest admission rates.

 

[upstater]

I think you are a little off there. G town is the most difficult school to get into in the country

?!?!?!? Well, first, I would take heavy issue with that, but secondly, it's not a top research institution with the concerns that UConn has.

 

[VAHuskyFan]

Quite frankly, Herbst has taken the wrong approach against the NCAA. . . . True the big/elite schools almost always get away with either no punishment or a slap on the wrist - so maybe we thought let's not offend anyone and we will get that treatment - Wrong!

It's pretty hard to fault the administration for taking the path that you admit leads to "almost always get[ting] away with either no punishment or a slap on the wrist." Hindsight is 20-20, but you've got to make decisions based on the percentages.

If you're playing blackjack and you stand on 19 against a dealer 5, that's the right call. It doesn't become the wrong call just because the dealer hits 20 to beat you.

 

[suzyq]

Herbst is not well liked by her peers.....is what I hear.

Good, because I'm not generally impressed by what I've seen form other University presidents at UConn and the rest of the country. Remember, these are the boys who brought us the BCS.

 

[Danzz]

Really? I can't find any rankings that list GTown among the top 20 lowest admission rates.

Georgetown is a great school and Uconn is not in their league. It is hard for me to think of 20 more difficult schools for admission. Here's what Uconn is: the best public university in New England but nowhere near the top 10 public universities in the country (most of the best are in the midwest and Cal. + UNC). Academicly Uconn is not Georgetown, Villanova or Notre Dame.
The diffence between Uconn in the late 80's when my daughter was at Uconn and today is amazing. The improvement in academic standing, facilties and admission requirements have been incredible. We are moving in the right direction.

 

[CAHUSKY]

Georgetown is a great school and Uconn is not in their league. It is hard for me to think of 20 more difficult schools for admission. Here's what Uconn is: the best public university in New England but nowhere near the top 10 public universities in the country (most of the best are in the midwest and Cal. + UNC). Academicly Uconn is not Georgetown, Villanova or Notre Dame.
The diffence between Uconn in the late 80's when my daughter was at Uconn and today is amazing. The improvement in academic standing, facilties and admission requirements have been incredible. We are moving in the right direction.

Who cares? The poster indicated GTown was the most difficult school in the country to get into and thats not even close to the truth. I did a bunch of google searches and even the most positive ranking I could find was that GTown was the 22 most difficult school to get into in the country. Thats a long way from the toughest. That was my only point.

 

[epark88]

The person (if there is one) currently in charge of UConn's media/public relations needs to be Hathawayed...

 

[upstater]

Georgetown is a great school and Uconn is not in their league. It is hard for me to think of 20 more difficult schools for admission. Here's what Uconn is: the best public university in New England but nowhere near the top 10 public universities in the country (most of the best are in the midwest and Cal. + UNC). Academicly Uconn is not Georgetown, Villanova or Notre Dame.
The diffence between Uconn in the late 80's when my daughter was at Uconn and today is amazing. The improvement in academic standing, facilties and admission requirements have been incredible. We are moving in the right direction.

Who compared UConn to Georgetown?

 

[upstater]

Who cares? The poster indicated GTown was the most difficult school in the country to get into and thats not even close to the truth. I did a bunch of google searches and even the most positive ranking I could find was that GTown was the 22 most difficult school to get into in the country. Thats a long way from the toughest. That was my only point.

US News has them at 34 but there's reason to be suspicious about anything US News reports. That being said, it's a lot easier for a small school to have very low admission rates. I'm much more impressed when a big school has those low rates, and there are some really big schools ahead of Georgetown on that list.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

I'm back. Hold the applause.

My tiny little brain wonders why a lawsuit can't be brought against the NCAA by the players, not the university. In essence, the players are being denied exposure by the NCAA (exposure in CBB is an NCAA monopoly), and for a prospective NBA player, exposure means all the difference between getting a contract and not getting one. None of the current players have done anything, according to the NCAA's own rules, to be subject to this punishment. Additionally, there is no alternative measure that the players can take where they won't suffer damages.

The NCAA went wrong when they instituted a punishment that damages innocent players. It can be argued the specific punishment is aimed more at the current players than it is the school they represent (ostensibly the entity that should be the focus).

The plaintiff's need to be Tyler Olander, Niels Giffey, Shabazz Napier, Ryan Boatright, Deandre Daniels et al.

I even know the perfect lawyer for them to hire.