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Message: [QUOTE="Zinethar, post: 3391218, member: 8436"] I do know the bagel thing was used by the incoming head of the NCAA as something dumb (it was). I'm sure there have been some other changes since I retired in 2013. To say things that happened to me are absurd yes they were. Some people get a kick out of trying to make a big deal when they see things they perceive as violations which were not (observers usually have no idea what is being said at chance meetings for example). My point is that with the thousands of rules like most of the ones self reported it can be fairly easy to miss one honestly. I sat through a couple of those training sessions - not fun. [/QUOTE]