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Message: [QUOTE="JonathanXIV, post: 3499075, member: 9217"] It all counts. You can't decide what counts after the fact, once the championships are handed out. Lawler and Pulido have more championships than Bascom, who never won a championship. But Kerry did take a team that had never been there before and carried it to the Final Four. That counts. Use baseball as a reference point for a moment. It's a long, long season. 162 games. Even the very best teams lose 60 games. And when it's late August , bottom of the 8th, and your team is 8 games out and down 4 runs, the player who shows up and grinds out a 12-pitch at bat before drawing a walk in a losing effort counts. Showing up for the daily grind, regardless of how good your teammates are, counts. In some ways, it's the thing that counts the most. [/QUOTE]