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UConn Top 20 (Here we go again)

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The Boneyard has debated this many times before, but impressions do change over time (for example, a few years ago we had Hamilton as #2).

Here is how my buddy and I come out now.

Regardless of relative position, have we inadvertently forgotten anyone?

TOP TEN

1 Ray Allen best of the best
2 Kemba Walker
3 Richard Hamilton
4 Omeka Okafor
5 Khalid El-Amin
6 Shabazz Napier
7 Donyell Marshall
8 Caron Butler
9 Cliff Robinson
10 Rudy Gay

NEXT TEN

11 James Booknight if no injuries - up?
12 Ben Gordon
13 Ricky Moore
14 Chris Smith started it all
15 Jeremy Lamb
16 A J Price
17 Ryan Boatright
18 Jerome Dyson
19 Christian Vital on a weak team
20 Jalen Adams on a weak team

OTHER NOTABLES (IN ALPHA ORDER)

? Jeff Adrian
? Josh Boone
? Scott Burrell
? Kevin Freeman underrated
? Phil Gamble
? Tate George
? Neils Giffey
? Nadov Henefeld (only one year)
? Donny Marshall
? Kevin Ollie
? Doron Sheffer
? Adama Sonago potentially
? Hasheem Thabeet
 

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What is the basis for your rankings? Best players? Best college careers? Best representative of the University of Connecticut basketball program? How much of a factor is the NBA career?

FWIW, here's where it came out last time, with the given criteria:

 

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I guess what I would care about is, what would be the team I'd most like to watch?

For me that would be: Kemba, Ray, Caron, Cliff, Emeka.
 
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The Boneyard has debated this many times before, but impressions do change over time (for example, a few years ago we had Hamilton as #2).

Here is how my buddy and I come out now.

Regardless of relative position, have we inadvertently forgotten anyone?

TOP TEN

1 Ray Allen best of the best
2 Kemba Walker
3 Richard Hamilton
4 Omeka Okafor
5 Khalid El-Amin
6 Shabazz Napier
7 Donyell Marshall
8 Caron Butler
9 Cliff Robinson
10 Rudy Gay

NEXT TEN

11 James Booknight if no injuries - up?
12 Ben Gordon
13 Ricky Moore
14 Chris Smith started it all
15 Jeremy Lamb
16 A J Price
17 Ryan Boatright
18 Jerome Dyson
19 Christian Vital on a weak team
20 Jalen Adams on a weak team

OTHER NOTABLES (IN ALPHA ORDER)

? Jeff Adrian
? Josh Boone
? Scott Burrell
? Kevin Freeman underrated
? Phil Gamble
? Tate George
? Neils Giffey
? Nadov Henefeld (only one year)
? Donny Marshall
? Kevin Ollie
? Doron Sheffer
? Adama Sonago potentially
? Hasheem Thabeet
You forgot Hilton. Being the basis of all UConn measurements should count for something...
 
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What are we measuring here? Talent as a college player? Post-season? National accolades? NBA work? Depending on what you want to value, this list can change a lot.

Because senior Boat is a better player than Sophomore Bouk, for example.

Total accomplishments as a college player? Bazz needs to be bumped up.

Best individual season as a college player?

NBA body of work? Drop Shabazz, Bump donyell... you get the idea.
 

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Guys who shined on NC teams should be rated higher. BG is definitely a top ten player. I'd move him to 7, Smitty to 8 and Gay to 14. and push Butler, Cliffy down one. Ricky Moore to 12. Bouk needs to move down significantly. I'd move him, CV, and Jalen Adams to notables and bring up Thabeet, Burrell and Freeman
 
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The Boneyard has debated this many times before, but impressions do change over time (for example, a few years ago we had Hamilton as #2).

Here is how my buddy and I come out now.

Regardless of relative position, have we inadvertently forgotten anyone?

TOP TEN

1 Ray Allen best of the best
2 Kemba Walker
3 Richard Hamilton
4 Omeka Okafor
5 Khalid El-Amin
6 Shabazz Napier
7 Donyell Marshall
8 Caron Butler
9 Cliff Robinson
10 Rudy Gay

NEXT TEN

11 James Booknight if no injuries - up?
12 Ben Gordon
13 Ricky Moore
14 Chris Smith started it all
15 Jeremy Lamb
16 A J Price
17 Ryan Boatright
18 Jerome Dyson
19 Christian Vital on a weak team
20 Jalen Adams on a weak team

OTHER NOTABLES (IN ALPHA ORDER)

? Jeff Adrian
? Josh Boone
? Scott Burrell
? Kevin Freeman underrated
? Phil Gamble
? Tate George
? Neils Giffey
? Nadov Henefeld (only one year)
? Donny Marshall
? Kevin Ollie
? Doron Sheffer
? Adama Sonago potentially
? Hasheem Thabeet
Is this based on UConn career or total basketball career? Are we leaving out old timers Toby Kimball, Tony Hanson? If it's based on UConn career Ray isn't #1, you have Khalid too high, Donyell too low, Chris Smith way too low, Gordon too low. Jerome Dyson shouldn't be on the list, neither should Jalen Adams and Vital. Replace them with Hasheem, Boone, and Scott Burrell. Hasheem needs to be in the top 15. It's Emeka and Doron.
 

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Your top 9 are solid
Bouknight hasn't accomplished near enough at UConn to be on the list
Every player you have listed below the top 20 except Sonago is above JB
JB is a talent yes, but contributor? Not in top 35/40 terms IMHO (Wes B, Tony H, Corny T, Toby K, Taliek, Hobbs, AJ, Sticks, Marcus Williams and others contributed much more than JB) . If Drummond isn't on there than neither should JB - both were high draft picks but that's about it
I feel Rudy is not Top 10 but Ben certainly is
Love that JA and CV received some love
 
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Without any criteria not even a discussion. But by any criteria, Vital and Adams above Sheffer is absurd. It's one thing to put up numbers for poor or mediocre teams. It's another thing to be playing at an all-old Big East level for three years for a team that goes to the second weekend three times.
 
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The Boneyard has debated this many times before, but impressions do change over time (for example, a few years ago we had Hamilton as #2).

Here is how my buddy and I come out now.

Regardless of relative position, have we inadvertently forgotten anyone?

TOP TEN

1 Ray Allen best of the best
2 Kemba Walker
3 Richard Hamilton
4 Omeka Okafor
5 Khalid El-Amin
6 Shabazz Napier
7 Donyell Marshall
8 Caron Butler
9 Cliff Robinson
10 Rudy Gay

NEXT TEN

11 James Booknight if no injuries - up?
12 Ben Gordon
13 Ricky Moore
14 Chris Smith started it all
15 Jeremy Lamb
16 A J Price
17 Ryan Boatright
18 Jerome Dyson
19 Christian Vital on a weak team
20 Jalen Adams on a weak team

OTHER NOTABLES (IN ALPHA ORDER)

? Jeff Adrian
? Josh Boone
? Scott Burrell
? Kevin Freeman underrated
? Phil Gamble
? Tate George
? Neils Giffey
? Nadov Henefeld (only one year)
? Donny Marshall
? Kevin Ollie
? Doron Sheffer
? Adama Sonago potentially
? Hasheem Thabeet
No love for DHam on this list? Or sticks?
 

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What is the basis for your rankings? Best players? Best college careers? Best representative of the University of Connecticut basketball program? How much of a factor is the NBA career?

FWIW, here's where it came out last time, with the given criteria:


This is the question that must be answered. Looking at entire career, including NBA? Just UConn? Factoring in any intangibles (like starring in a Spike Lee movie)? How about coaching careers after playing careers? Until we know the criteria it's impossible.
 
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I guess what I would care about is, what would be the team I'd most like to watch?

For me that would be: Kemba, Ray, Caron, Cliff, Emeka.
For me it would be Kemba, Ray, Rip, Donyell, Emeka
 
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So no Toby Kimball or Wonderful Wes? How about Tony Hanson? Is this a list that starts with Calhoun as coach?

Any of these guys better in college than Art Quimby:

"Art Quimby is a member of the UConn Basketball All Century Team. He owns the University of Connecticut men’s basketball record for single-season total rebounds (611) and rebound average (24.4/game). He totaled more points (1,398) and rebounds (1,716) combined than any player in UConn history (3,114) and he ranks No. 1 in career rebounding and career rebound average (21.5/game)."
 
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18, 19, 20 over Thabeet is pretty rough. People forget how good he was because it didn't go as planned after UConn. Also, Ricky Moore is way too high. Great defensive player and played great against Duke but 13 overall is insane. Vital has gone from maligned to underappreciated to now a bit overrated.
 

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