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Posted this in Alex's thread "In other news ...' but thought it deserved its own thread - did I miss out on anything?
When looking at some of the records for Uconn there are a few that stand out as being hard to imagine ever being broken except possibly by another Uconn team:
1. 90 wins - no other coaching staff in WCBB seems to have perfected the ability to so consistently achieve focus in the moment - possession to possessions, game to game, year after year. Even should this great Uconn team go undefeated, they would still end up needing another 15 wins next year to tie. The only recently dominant team that looked like it might be capable of getting close - Baylor after their 40-0 season ended only three games into their next season.
2. 5 undefeated NCAA D1 seasons - again, the focus achieved at Uconn is unique - the next closest team/coach has one such season, and it has only been achieved three other times (Baylor/Kim, TN/Pat, Texas/Conradt)
3. 10 national championships - like Wooden/UCLA before, Geno/Uconn are spanning eras in the respective genders from pre-modern to modern where the money/resources/focus are expanding rapidly. The chance of any current or future coach has of coming close to this record is very slim, especially considering there are 2 active coaches with 2 wins (Kim/Tara) and only 4 more with a single NC (Gary, Brenda, Muffet, Sylvia.) Like in the men's game, competition has expanded and coaches will become 'legendary' for reaching 3 or 4 wins rather than challenging the actual record.
4. 8 Consecutive final four appearances - five teams/coaches have appeared in five consecutive final fours - Uconn (2), LSU, Stanford, and ND. Two of those streak are on-going Uconn at 8 and ND at 5. This one is a record that it might be possible to duplicate or pass - ND and Uconn both look likely to extend their streaks, and ND should Uconn falter in the next few years is well positioned to continue their streak into future years. While the competition has improved in the women's game, the coaching has perhaps not kept up with the talent, and building a team capable of being one of the 4 best teams each year is a lot easier than building one that is continually THE best.
5. 2 3peats - the 3peat has been accomplished three times, twice by Geno/Uconn and once by Pat/TN - with the increased competition, it is getting harder to maintain being #1 in three consecutive years. With no active coaches/teams having achieved it once, it is hard to see any current coach/team getting there twice. And it will just get harder every year.
6. 2 Double digit minimum MOV seasons - as noted in #2, undefeated seasons are rare enough, maintaining an MOV of double digits in an undefeated season is even rare having been done only twice, as Alex notes. This record is not likely, but also not unachievable - putting together a truly dominant team in women's basketball can be done, and maintaining a ten point MOV through perhaps 10 truly competitive games in a season could be accomplished by any really good coach. It is rare, but the idea of doing it twice if you have a Griner and Sims combination with a good supporting cast is not unthinkable.
7. 11 point minimum MOV - see #6 - if a double digit minimum MOV undefeated season is not unthinkable, doing it by 12 points or more is also not unthinkable or unachievable.
8. 40.6 full year MOV - achieved in a one loss season! Considering that Uconn holds the top five full year MOV spots in the record book, and 12 of the top 20 positions! and the only teams to break into Uconn's dominance accomplished their MOVs in the previous century, this may actually be a harder record to reach than it might appear. Really good teams in WCBB can blow out a lot of their competition by ridiculous margins, but sustaining those margins through the NCAAs and against the stronger parts of their schedule is pretty difficult. Uconn's focus on detail even in blow-outs, their distancing themselves from their strongest competition and ability to blow-out even highly ranked teams is unprecedented and may be unreachable by other teams. The combination of explosive offense and relentless defense is unique and has never been seen before - and may never be matched by another team. This record was achieved with a one loss season, and with the 5 starters on the team averaging only 27.2 minutes per game. A lot of the credit therefore belongs to a bench that maintained or increased the MOV in games.
9. Two consecutive undefeated season - given that only one active coach other than Geno has achieved a single undefeated season, this one seems to be a pretty safe record.
When looking at some of the records for Uconn there are a few that stand out as being hard to imagine ever being broken except possibly by another Uconn team:
1. 90 wins - no other coaching staff in WCBB seems to have perfected the ability to so consistently achieve focus in the moment - possession to possessions, game to game, year after year. Even should this great Uconn team go undefeated, they would still end up needing another 15 wins next year to tie. The only recently dominant team that looked like it might be capable of getting close - Baylor after their 40-0 season ended only three games into their next season.
2. 5 undefeated NCAA D1 seasons - again, the focus achieved at Uconn is unique - the next closest team/coach has one such season, and it has only been achieved three other times (Baylor/Kim, TN/Pat, Texas/Conradt)
3. 10 national championships - like Wooden/UCLA before, Geno/Uconn are spanning eras in the respective genders from pre-modern to modern where the money/resources/focus are expanding rapidly. The chance of any current or future coach has of coming close to this record is very slim, especially considering there are 2 active coaches with 2 wins (Kim/Tara) and only 4 more with a single NC (Gary, Brenda, Muffet, Sylvia.) Like in the men's game, competition has expanded and coaches will become 'legendary' for reaching 3 or 4 wins rather than challenging the actual record.
4. 8 Consecutive final four appearances - five teams/coaches have appeared in five consecutive final fours - Uconn (2), LSU, Stanford, and ND. Two of those streak are on-going Uconn at 8 and ND at 5. This one is a record that it might be possible to duplicate or pass - ND and Uconn both look likely to extend their streaks, and ND should Uconn falter in the next few years is well positioned to continue their streak into future years. While the competition has improved in the women's game, the coaching has perhaps not kept up with the talent, and building a team capable of being one of the 4 best teams each year is a lot easier than building one that is continually THE best.
5. 2 3peats - the 3peat has been accomplished three times, twice by Geno/Uconn and once by Pat/TN - with the increased competition, it is getting harder to maintain being #1 in three consecutive years. With no active coaches/teams having achieved it once, it is hard to see any current coach/team getting there twice. And it will just get harder every year.
6. 2 Double digit minimum MOV seasons - as noted in #2, undefeated seasons are rare enough, maintaining an MOV of double digits in an undefeated season is even rare having been done only twice, as Alex notes. This record is not likely, but also not unachievable - putting together a truly dominant team in women's basketball can be done, and maintaining a ten point MOV through perhaps 10 truly competitive games in a season could be accomplished by any really good coach. It is rare, but the idea of doing it twice if you have a Griner and Sims combination with a good supporting cast is not unthinkable.
7. 11 point minimum MOV - see #6 - if a double digit minimum MOV undefeated season is not unthinkable, doing it by 12 points or more is also not unthinkable or unachievable.
8. 40.6 full year MOV - achieved in a one loss season! Considering that Uconn holds the top five full year MOV spots in the record book, and 12 of the top 20 positions! and the only teams to break into Uconn's dominance accomplished their MOVs in the previous century, this may actually be a harder record to reach than it might appear. Really good teams in WCBB can blow out a lot of their competition by ridiculous margins, but sustaining those margins through the NCAAs and against the stronger parts of their schedule is pretty difficult. Uconn's focus on detail even in blow-outs, their distancing themselves from their strongest competition and ability to blow-out even highly ranked teams is unprecedented and may be unreachable by other teams. The combination of explosive offense and relentless defense is unique and has never been seen before - and may never be matched by another team. This record was achieved with a one loss season, and with the 5 starters on the team averaging only 27.2 minutes per game. A lot of the credit therefore belongs to a bench that maintained or increased the MOV in games.
9. Two consecutive undefeated season - given that only one active coach other than Geno has achieved a single undefeated season, this one seems to be a pretty safe record.