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Message: [QUOTE="JonathanXIV, post: 3762046, member: 9217"] First, I think Thurman Munson was a helluva baseball player. Period. Second, I agree with you about Harold Baines. Very good player. Head scratching decision to put him in the HOF. (note: almost all questionable HOF decisions are by Veterans Committees). Third, using lots of exclamations points does not bolster your argument. The simple fact is that Munson's stats were not "equal to or better" than the records of either Bench or Fisk. While all three catchers had similar OBPs, both Bench and Fisk hit for considerably more power and had much higher SLG averages. Munson only slugged .410 for his career and was under .375 the last two years of his career (during his age 31 season he hit 6 HRs). He had 1 season of 20 or more HRs, Bench had 11 and Fisk had 8. Lifetime Munson had 113 HRs and 701 RBIs. Bench was 389/1376 and Fisk was 376/1330. Those are in no way comparable. Munson had 55.1 WAR lifetime. Impressive. Bench had 85.4 and Fisk 83.3. Again, a world of difference. Again, very good player. Not a HOFer. But not offended that you passionately make an argument for Munson. And you shouldn't be offended that I respectively disagree. [/QUOTE]