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Message: [QUOTE="Lefty2one, post: 3289047, member: 1001"] It's still far inferior to sewn/tackle twill stuff. It just looks and feels cheap IMO. The shorts TCF shared look fine if they were $40. $70 for that is tough to swallow. I'd take my $70 and be patient and find a real vintage pair on eBay. They show up often enough and outside of the start of the season and March Madness they can be had for $50 or so. Logos sewn on, the red trim sewn on, etc. Those were some great shorts from Nike. [/QUOTE]