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Message: [QUOTE="Gurleyman, post: 5256434, member: 175"] Saw both too - both had some health issues along the way that maybe stopped them from reaching their A level sooner or more consistently (the 04 team lost Marcus Williams midway through to academics and had to ride with basically no backup guards). I think ultimately the 2024 clears. The dips of the 2004 team were more significant. Had a home loss. A lopsided neutral site loss. A two game losing streak. Didn’t win the Big East. From a talent perspective - Emeka and Ben were next level, but Clingan and Spencer aren’t that far behind, and you could argue Spencer’s efficiency made him even better than Ben as a college player. Taliek and Boone were role players who were limited offensively. The 2024 team really had no holes. Had MW stayed eligible, the pendulum might have swung the other way. But an un-injured Castle who found his groove sooner might have been a completely different beast by the end of the year too. [/QUOTE]