UConn AD Warde Manuel on Appeal Rejection

[husky99]

http://borgesblognhr.blogspot.com/search/label/Warde Manuel

 

[Fishy]

I wish someone would have been that forceful three months ago. Or if they were, I wish I had paid more attention.

 

[CL82]

“I am very proud of our current men’s basketball student-athletes, who have worked hard in the classroom and enjoyed academic success,” said UConn President Susan Herbst. “It is disturbing that our current players must pay a penalty for the academic performance of students no longer enrolled. As I have said repeatedly, no educator or parent purposefully punishes young people for the failings of others."

Wrong tact by Herbst in my opinion. The best position is to emphasize that it was impossible for UConn to comply with the change from the get go due to the NCAA reliance on old data. This "their punishing the wrong kids" appeal just doesn't resonate as well.

 

[CL82]

I wish someone would have been that forceful three months ago. Or if they were, I wish I had paid more attention.

Appeal was still up in the air. I don't think that they wanted to make waives while they had a chance of negotiated settlement. That's gone now, so hopefully, we'll take the battle to them and make them spend time justifying their position. They've been pounding on us a rogue institution - it's time for us to point out the hypocracy and inherent unfairness of their position.

 

[cohenzone]

Wrong tact by Herbst in my opinion. The best position is to emphasize that it was impossible for UConn to comply with the change from the get go due to the NCAA reliance on old data. This "their punishing the wrong kids" appeal just doesn't resonate as well.

Not sure anything resonates with the NCAA. the case might resonate to a different forum, a court for example. The NCAA seems pretty locked in to the conclusion and not the equities.

 

[dogpause]

I think the press release was surprisingly strong and shows disgust with the implementation of these rules. I also get the sense that the university might not be resigned to accepting this ruling.

What bothers me is that more wasn't done from a PR standpoint much sooner. There was rarely any mention in the press of how unfairly the NCAA is handling this. We almost never saw the word "retroactive" or "double punishment" in any news story. Perhaps the school wanted to give the NCAA time to correct the situation, but it now seems obvious they never had any intention of reversing their ruling.

I also believe that if Alex hadn't announced his desire to transfer, the NCAA probably would have jerked us around a couple more months.

The only good thing is that now maybe some of the media will begin to hear and discuss the injustice being done. Punish the university, but don't punish players who had no role and no control of the matter.

 

[CL82]

Not sure anything resonates with the NCAA. the case might resonate to a different forum, a court for example. The NCAA seems pretty locked in to the conclusion and not the equities.

Agree. I think that refocusing the public discussion to force NCAA and Emmert to justify using old data is the logical way to go. If the publicity goes the against them, they'll change their position.

 

[dogpause]

I think the NCAA can justify using data from the previous year, but not giving schools time to adjust is indefensible. Also, not granting an appeal when the school has near perfect APR scores for the two most recent years seems callous and goes against the grain of the educational model.

There's just too many injured parties for this not to end up in the courts.

 

[metsfan2323]

What bothers me is that more wasn't done from a PR standpoint much sooner. There was rarely any mention in the press of how unfairly the NCAA is handling this. We almost never saw the word "retroactive" or "double punishment" in any news story. Perhaps the school wanted to give the NCAA time to correct the situation, but it now seems obvious they never had any intention of reversing their ruling.
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"Retroactive" and "double punishment"should have been the mantra from day 1. Herbst took the high road and it was a rookie mistake. Nice guys finish last, nice women get ignored.

 

[dogpause]

And now the Governor himself has chimed in. I don't think the final buzzer has sounded.

 

[Deadrody]

I think the NCAA can justify using data from the previous year, but not giving schools time to adjust is indefensible. Also, not granting an appeal when the school has near perfect APR scores for the two most recent years seems callous and goes against the grain of the educational model.

There's just too many injured parties for this not to end up in the courts.

The bottom line is that the NCAA absolutely knew when they passed that rule that Connecticut would be banned from the 2013 tournament with no recourse. To me there's no way that kind of rule can be allowed. I don't know the legal reasoning behind it, but I feel pretty confident.

 

[businesslawyer]

Wrong tact by Herbst in my opinion. The best position is to emphasize that it was impossible for UConn to comply with the change from the get go due to the NCAA reliance on old data. This "their punishing the wrong kids" appeal just doesn't resonate as well.

The "they're punishing the wrong kids" defense is, frankly, dumb. All NCAA punishments are after the fact, and to at least some degree punish the wrong kids. They can't punish kids who are gone.

 

[SubbaBub]

The real farce is not using the most currently available data. Who cares if everybody else's isn't available. This is our appeal and we have our data.

A perennially poor program wouldn't have the numbers we have now.



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