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Now that the NCAA has decided for whatever reason to toughen up the criteria on granting waivers do you all think the transfer culture that has permeated throughout Women's college basketball the past 6/7 years will continue?

Looking back I feel like the first class now that we were in the amidst of transfer culture was high school class of 2013.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens next spring and beyond.
 

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I think there was an uptick in transfers before the NCAA started granting some waivers for immediate eligibility, so I don't think that is really the driver on whether players will transfer or stay put. I expect the current trend to continue.
 

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I would think that players who think that they have a valid reason to transfer will continue to enter the transfer portal. Once they go to their new school they will still have to convince the NCAA that their reason is valid to get the waiver.

Have any players that got their waiver ever posted on YouTube, post graduation, the circumstances that they submitted to the NCAA?
 
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I am not exactly a fan of the transfer culture and think it’s just a reflection on how players now are regularly changing high schools and AAU teams to get more exposure. I truly don’t think there will ever be a TASS(K) force type class again where 4 top flight players came in and stuck together to have one of the most successful seasons in history. Now, players want immediate time and sometimes the bench can get too crowded.

I do think the NCAA opening Pandora’s box has something to do with more and more players transferring so they think they don’t have to wait and just apply for a waiver. I actually hope that trend reverses even though there will still be plenty of transfers. Of course there are legitimate reasons to transfer but I don’t know why so many “top” players seem to want out of situations after only a season or two before they may have had a chance to develop.
 
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I am not exactly a fan of the transfer culture and think it’s just a reflection on how players now are regularly changing high schools and AAU teams to get more exposure. I truly don’t think there will ever be a TASS(K) force type class again where 4 top flight players came in and stuck together to have one of the most successful seasons in history. Now, players want immediate time and sometimes the bench can get too crowded.

I do think the NCAA opening Pandora’s box has something to do with more and more players transferring so they think they don’t have to wait and just apply for a waiver. I actually hope that trend reverses even though there will still be plenty of transfers. Of course there are legitimate reasons to transfer but I don’t know why so many “top” players seem to want out of situations after only a season or two before they may have had a chance to develop.
Not to nitpick, but TASS(K) DID go to 3 FF's and won 2 NC's. You're right, though - in 1999-2000 they weren't undefeated - they only went 36-1 and 16-0 in the Big East, so I guess that wasn't one of the 'most successful seasons'. :p :p
 

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Now that the NCAA has decided for whatever reason to toughen up the criteria on granting waivers do you all think the transfer culture that has permeated throughout Women's college basketball the past 6/7 years will continue? Looking back I feel like the first class now that we were in the amidst of transfer culture was high school class of 2013. It's going to be interesting to see what happens next spring and beyond.
The largest picture is that transfer rate from 4 year colleges to other 4 year colleges has been on the rise since about 2011 and is at about 39.1%. This data also shows that women are transferring at a slightly higher rate than men (40.8 to 37.1 %).
The medium picture is that NCAA athletes are transferring at significantly smaller rate than non-Athletes (39.1 to 12 %).
In the smaller picture of WCBB transfer rates for D1 is about at 19.5% which includes from JUCO ranks and graduate transfers.
UCONN WBB has averaged about 1 transfer (out) per year since 2012 ~ 10%. UCONN has taken in 5 transfers Natalie, Azura, Batouly, Evelyn, & Evina ~ 7%. There was a recent BY thread discussion transfers among the major college programs. If I remember correctly UCONN was kind of middle of the pack in terms of # of transfers and Stanford had the least #s. There was spirited debate about the “quality” of the UCONN transfers vs other programs.
An ESPN article on WCBB transfers from about 2014 concluded that social media was among the root causes for the increase in transfer rates among WCBB players. That article concluded that via social media it has become much easier to find someone who is perceived to be in a better situation than yourself-imagine that? The other root cause was pointed out in @MSSportsGuy where he says: “I am not exactly a fan of the transfer culture and think it’s just a reflection on how players now are regularly changing high schools and AAU teams to get more exposure.
Social media is not going away, the AAU drama & chaos is increasing so I fully expect the transfer rates to continue at current levels or increase.
The NCAA has changed the guidelines for immediate eligibility this summer but I believe it too early to say it has “toughened” the criteria. We are probably too familiar with Evina’s denial and might wrongfully conclude that the NCAA toughened the criteria. I’m not so sure Evina would have qualified under the old guidelines as was suggested in a recent BY post. Because we hate ND, EVERYTHING regarding Shepard’s waiver will be seen a giving ND a solid and an anti-UCONN bias FOR ETERNITY-evidence be dammed.
 
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Not to nitpick, but TASS(K) DID go to 3 FF's and won 2 NC's. You're right, though - in 1999-2000 they weren't undefeated - they only went 36-1 and 16-0 in the Big East, so I guess that wasn't one of the 'most successful seasons'. :p :p
My comment was in no way to slight any of those teams but 2002 had a magic about them. The 1998 LVs, 2002 Huskies are only eclipsed in my brain (slighly) by the 2016 Huskies. 2002 was a machine which could do little wrong and if they did it was quickly corrected. 2000 was a fantastic team for sure and they were by far the best in the country that year. I'm sorry the comment was perceived that way.
 
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One trend that I have noticed is fewer girls from high school are committing early. In 2013 there were girls (Lexie Brown was one of the main ones) that was committing as sophomores. In 2021 there have only been 4 commits from the top players thus far.
 
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The availability of more good programs and coaches to choose from makes those earlier commits not necessary. The demand is starting to become greater than the supply. In the past players wanted to make sure they signed with the few available programs before those spots were taken. Now there are more options.
 

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There are a growing number of college athletes transferring to new teams as graduate students. FiveThirtyEight’s Daniel Levitt notes that 38 men and 13 women transferred as graduates in 2013, but only five years later, that number had grown to 121 men and 48 women, “increases of 218 percent and 269 percent, respectively.” Top college teams brought in more transfer students than lost them.

 

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