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Message: [QUOTE="uconnfan68, post: 3790746, member: 603"] My problem is the I can’t easily get in or out of a civic or corolla. Until my hip was replaced it was really hard, now it’s just plain hard to do. They sit too low for old people with bad backs and arthritis. I literally tried corolla, then camry, then rav4 before I could easily get in and out. Didn’t bother with a test drive. We had bought a sienna a few months earlier and a second one was almost in the queue. I knew that worked, but stuck with the rav4. 5 years later, still happy. [/QUOTE]