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Message: [QUOTE="JMick, post: 3790523, member: 6467"] that's fair, dogs take up a ton of room. Tellurides are nice but don't pay sticker for one. Most dealers think they have some special limited edition on their hands and are trying to get people to pay sticker or sticker + markup. I'd wait until that dies down before seriously considering one. Kia and Hyundai make pretty good cars now for the most part, but you're also going to have to deal with their dealerships which are some of the worst in the business, and their corporate isn't great either. It's not the worst of the worst but you can do better as far as service goes. The new Explorer is really, really nice but I'd research all of the problems they've been having before driving one. Because if you drive it you're going to want to buy it. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2020-ford-explorer-recalled-for-the-10th-time-in-a-single-year/[/URL] [/QUOTE]