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Message: [QUOTE="Hey Adrien!, post: 4202913, member: 5787"] Lots of talk on whether or not Kansas State should make the tournament: [LIST] [*]14-11 [*]63 NET [*]56 KenPom [*]5-8 Q1, 2-3 Q2, 7-0 Q 3&4 [*]4-1 in last five games (wins over Iowa State, Oklahoma State, TCU, West Virginia, all teams between 45-65 KenPom...only loss to Baylor) [*]13th toughest schedule overall [*]272nd toughest OOC schedule (wins over Wichita State and Nebraska are best OOC wins. 3rd best OOC win: take your pick from Albany, North Dakota, Green Bay.) [*]Only OOC loses to Illinois, Marquette and Arkansas [*]"Worst" loss 56-67 to Ole Miss (KP 107). "Second Worst" loss 68-71 to West Virginia (KP 64) [*]Their last five B12 games: Oklahoma State, Kansas, Iowa State, Texas Tech, Oklahoma. Let's say they go 3-2 in that stretch and assuming they don't win the B12...is 14 losses too many? [/LIST] What do you all think? As Makingthemadness.com writer Jonathon Warriner mentions, this reminds him of a lot of Archie Miller Indiana teams: "good teams" with bad records. For example, in 18-19 Indiana was 19-16, but had a #52 KenPom. 19-20 Indiana went 20-12 and had a #34 KenPom. [/QUOTE]