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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2115938, member: 488"] I agree with the first part. We'll just have to disagree on the second part. I think there are a lot of coaches who could have taken that team to the tournament and Ollie should have been one of them. But I've come to respect Ollie as a big picture guy who doesn't value quick fixes like zone. I wouldn't call him stubborn, necessarily, but I think he's adamant that the game be played a particular way. Sometimes, that means taking a step back today so you can take a few steps forward tomorrow. To my eye, the offense was overly structured and the defense was overly idealistic. Neither systems made very good use of personnel, but I think we have to wait until Ollie actually has his guys - and Brimah was a late period add - before we cast judgement. In a lot of ways, I don't think Calhoun was much different and he - one of the best ever - had some teams that he massively under-achieved with. The 2012 team was an abomination and I think his stubbornness was simultaneously what made him great and also - in addition to talent - what caused more of the down seasons than some of his peers. I think we'll come to see Ollie the same way over time. [/QUOTE]