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Message: [QUOTE="storrsroars, post: 2804190, member: 2500"] The problem with MM is that the highs are incredibly high and the lows were so immature and stupid that it ruined the album. Dude needed someone to just stop him from putting down some of the BS that made it to the final CD. But I still haven't heard anything since 2000 that blew me away the way Stan or Kim did on first listen. Or Amityville for that matter. If you've got something in mind that stands up to the drama and storytelling combined with the tune and phrasing that stands up to those two, I'm interested in hearing what they are. As an old white guy I'm not interested in beats. That's for kids. I'm interested in how the artist paints a full picture. [/QUOTE]