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If there was ever a time to launch an assault on the P5 and its manipulation of college sports competition, now is the time. They are systematically driving out competition and in bed with media to capture eyeballs and consolidate revenue. The AAC representation in the Tournament is a sham, and Aresco ought to be screaming from the hilltops for equity. He cannot sit back and allow this conference to get run over and relegated to an after thought. I'd be on every sports show in American assailing the P5 and the inequities in the system from excluding a 20 win National Champion, Temple, and Tulsa, as well as the exclusion from a BCS automatic bid.

Frankly playing nice with sharks rarely works, and he needs to get aggressive.
 
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If there was ever a time to launch an assault on the P5 and its manipulation of college sports competition, now is the time. They are systematically driving out competition and in bed with media to capture eyeballs and consolidate revenue. The AAC representation in the Tournament is a sham, and Aresco ought to be screaming from the hilltops for equity. He cannot sit back and allow this conference to get run over and relegated to an after thought. I'd be on every sports show in American assailing the P5 and the inequities in the system from excluding a 20 win National Champion, Temple, and Tulsa, as well as the exclusion from a BCS automatic bid.

Frankly playing nice with sharks rarely works, and he needs to get aggressive.
Do you really see him doing this? Our AD and president acted like nothing's wrong on CR the whole time, administrators just don't work that way.
 
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Well really only Temple got screwed.
Again, its not just that Temple got screwed. Its the fact that teams like Indiana and UCLA got in over them, with inferior resumes. My guess is that if Colorado State got in over Temple, there wouldn't be as brutal an out cry.
 

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We got screwed. The only real consideration by this phony NCAA committee is simple: Can this team be expected to win games and advance.
Without the justification of a losing season or a terrible schedule, we should have been in. The fact is that we could beat 8O%
of the field on a neutral court. It is a joke.
 
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Well yeah but UConn and Tulsa didn't get screwed.

Holy snow, I think people on here are overlooking the set-up here. No one is arguing that we should have gotten in, no one is arguing that we didn't lose the games that we shouldn't have but only getting two teams in (and they're respective seeds) and then having the Selection Committee chairman state that the Wyoming win kept Temple out (so Temple was the last of the 68) is mind blowing. The AAC is now officially relegated to mid-major status - - 8 other conferences got more bids this year. OOC wins are great for the resume but only if the P5 schedules you. My guess is that P5 will schedule fewer and fewer AAC games which then means that you either have to blow through the conference just about unscathed because of the RPI hit every game or win the conference championship. Well, just so happens that the league is tough enough where that is not guaranteed. Dire dire situation.
 
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Uh, what?

But for the fact that we played terrible teams and lost to a bunch of them, we should be in?


We got screwed. The only real consideration by this phony NCAA committee is simple: Can this team be expected to win games and advance.
Without the justification of a losing season or a terrible schedule, we should have been in. The fact is that we could beat 8O%
of the field on a neutral court. It is a joke.
 
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Uh, what?

But for the fact that we played terrible teams and lost to a bunch of them, we should be in?
First, Temple, Cincy, SMU, Tulsa, Memphis, and UConn are not terrible teams. Quite the opposite and they have proven that for the most part year over year.

Second, the whole P5 thing is a self fulfilling prophecy. They start out with high RPI and SOS and then play each other which reinforces the same thing. They can choose which conference to "punish" by not scheduling them, making it impossible to move up. Further, if you play a P5 it is likely early in the season so teas with raw talent recruits generally can faire better against early season teams with project talent.

Third, this about money. Nothing more. The P5 needs to squeeze these schools into a second class citizen and drive up media market presence and control, which means more $$.

Finally, you don't take a 20 win National Champion, while admittedly spotty, and exclude them for the tourney. Let me put it to you this way, if Puke was a returning National Champion with 20 wins there would be no way in hell they would be dropped.
 
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80%? Hmm...

He didn't say we would, just that we could.

Anyway, its a good think we didn't beat YALE or Houston, because if we did, we would have had the metrics to get in and then the NCAA would have crushed us. Can you image what the board would be like then
 

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We don't get a bid automatically "just because we're UCONN". No program in the country gets that privilege.
 

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Tulsa got screwed.

There is literally no defense of LSU or UCLA getting bids. None.
 

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First, Temple, Cincy, SMU, Tulsa, Memphis, and UConn are not terrible teams. Quite the opposite and they have proven that for the most part year over year.
Maybe not terrible, but it's plain false to say that all these schools are proven tourney teams.

As for the "relegated" line, this league has been around for two years, and it started out as a mid-major because it is a mid-major. If Duke were in this league, they would take a major hit for being in it.
 
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Oh but didn't you hear? UCLA looked great in losing to Arizona!

Temple got screwed.
Was it the NCAA Committee chair or the NIT chair who used the term, 'they passed the eyeball test'? What exactly is the eyeball test...a test of whether they are a blue blood or a P5 school?
 
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Maybe not terrible, but it's plain false to say that all these schools are proven tourney teams.

As for the "relegated" line, this league has been around for two years, and it started out as a mid-major because it is a mid-major. If Duke were in this league, they would take a major hit for being in it.
Temple, Memphis, Cincy and UConn are as rock solid tourney teams as any you can find.
 
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First, Temple, Cincy, SMU, Tulsa, Memphis, and UConn are not terrible teams. Quite the opposite and they have proven that for the most part year over year.

Second, the whole P5 thing is a self fulfilling prophecy. They start out with high RPI and SOS and then play each other which reinforces the same thing. They can choose which conference to "punish" by not scheduling them, making it impossible to move up. Further, if you play a P5 it is likely early in the season so teas with raw talent recruits generally can faire better against early season teams with project talent.

Third, this about money. Nothing more. The P5 needs to squeeze these schools into a second class citizen and drive up media market presence and control, which means more $$.

Finally, you don't take a 20 win National Champion, while admittedly spotty, and exclude them for the tourney. Let me put it to you this way, if Puke was a returning National Champion with 20 wins there would be no way in hell they would be dropped.
You are 100% right because Duke plays a much tougher schedule and won. What part of we are a 4th seed in The NIT do you not get? No slander but you must not have been able to see many of our games this year.
 
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The RIPPLE effect is what is where the crying & yelling should come. Not so much that Temple gets left out ... but that you will find 270 schools of the 361 playing D1 Hoop will suddenly find it hard to provide women & 80% of their men's athletics. Etc etc.
 
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You are 100% right because Duke plays a much tougher schedule and won. What part of we are a 4th seed in The NIT do you not get? No slander but you must not have been able to see many of our games this year.
UConn's play was putrid at times and also very competitive at times. Inconsistency was their main problem right down to the in-game level. This I know. If you asked an opponent whether they wanted to play UConn instead of Coastal Carolina, Belmont or pick or 14th, 15h or 16th seed of choice, the answer would be hell no.
 
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