Tiebreaker question

[RayRay]

If we beat St. John’s Wednesday, and end up finishing with the same record, who has the tiebreaker for the top seed in the big east?

 

[upstater]

If we beat St. John’s Wednesday, and end up finishing with the same record, who has the tiebreaker for the top seed in the big east?

There is no tie-breaker that I know of.

Co-Big East Champs of the Regular Season. It has happened before.

I should also note that the winner of the regular season is official called the Big East Regular Season Champions, while the winner of the BET is called the Big East Champions.

 

[GHSWolverines]

Two-Team Tie:
If two teams are tied, the following steps are taken in order:

1. Regular season head-to-head results. If the tied teams split their two games or did not play, then proceed to Step 2. If the teams play only once, that still satisfies the series. In the event that the teams play more than twice, and those games are considered conference games, all games will be considered.

2. Each team’s winning percentage vs. the team or tied [group of] teams occupying the highest position in the standings, not including teams which have fallen below the 10 conference game threshold. Only common opponents will be considered. If an advantage is not determined, proceed to the next team or group of tied teams in the standings for comparison. Continue down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.

 

[Leebo]

There is no tie-breaker that I know of.

Co-Big East Champs of the Regular Season. It has happened before.

I should also note that the winner of the regular season is official called the Big East Regular Season Champions, while the winner of the BET is called the Big East Champions.

There still has to be a way to determine who gets which seed in the BET, even if both teams get a regular season trophy.

 

[navery12]

TLDR:

Creighton finishes higher than Providence: St John's 1 seed, UConn 2 seed

Providence finishes higher or tied: UConn 1 seed, St John's 2 seed

 

[GHSWolverines]

TLDR:

Creighton finishes higher than Providence: St John's 1 seed, UConn 2 seed

Providence finishes higher or tied: UConn 1 seed, St John's 2 seed

Unless Nova beats the Johnies

 

[Chonky]

TLDR:

Creighton finishes higher than Providence: St John's 1 seed, UConn 2 seed

Providence finishes higher or tied: UConn 1 seed, St John's 2 seed

So…..
You are penalized for losing to a better (ahead in standings) team?

 

[navery12]

Unless Nova beats the Johnies

Yeah, in that case there wouldn't be a tie anymore so yes then that wouldn't matter

 

[Peacefrog]

So…..
You are penalized for losing to a better (ahead in standings) team?

Alternative interpretation, you are rewarded for doing better against better teams.

 

[bendm]

TLDR:

Creighton finishes higher than Providence: St John's 1 seed, UConn 2 seed

Providence finishes higher or tied: UConn 1 seed, St John's 2 seed

Creighton is safely ahead of PC in the standings but Isn’t it the opposite? Wha happened to the NET ranking being the deciding tiebreaker?

 

[HooperScooper]

Creighton is safely ahead of PC in the standings but Isn’t it the opposite? Wha happened to the NET ranking being the deciding tiebreaker?

Someone posted this on here the other day. I'm assuming this is what they use. NET is pretty far down the list so I doubt it gets used this year.

Tiebreakers (PDF) - Big East Conference

www.bigeast.com

 

[Austin316]

If we beat St. John’s Wednesday, and end up finishing with the same record, who has the tiebreaker for the top seed in the big east?

Here is the tournament predictor tool. It’s great.

I think if Providence loses 1 game and us and St John’s win out we are 1 seed. Winning percentage against opponents St John’s and UConn lost against matter. We have higher NET right now.

mred's Big East MBB Tournament Seeding Tiebreaker

Big East Conference Men's Basketball Tournament Seeding and Tiebreakers

bball.notnothing.net

 

[navery12]

Creighton is safely ahead of PC in the standings but Isn’t it the opposite? Wha happened to the NET ranking being the deciding tiebreaker?

Safely ahead right now but if the favorites win the last 4 games for them they end up tied.

But it's not backwards, it goes down the standings for tiebreakers. So since Creighton would be ahead of Providence you'd reach them first and St John's 2-0 > UConn 1-1 vs Creighton

 

[bendm]

Safely ahead right now but if the favorites win the last 4 games for them they end up tied.

But it's not backwards, it goes down the standings for tiebreakers. So since Creighton would be ahead of Providence you'd reach them first and St John's 2-0 > UConn 1-1 vs Creighton

Damn. Seems backwards. I’d rather be 1-1 against Creighton and 2-0 against PC than 2-0 against Creighton and 1-1 against PC. We’re punished for losing to a better team.

 

[NIT88]

There is no tie-breaker that I know of.

Co-Big East Champs of the Regular Season. It has happened before.

I should also note that the winner of the regular season is official called the Big East Regular Season Champions, while the winner of the BET is called the Big East Champions.

Our first BE regular season championship was as co champions with Syracuse in ‘90.

 

[GHSWolverines]

Let's focus on beating the Johnnies tomorrow and let the chips fall where they may

 

[Greathusky]

Folks let's get by Marquette and Seton Hall first before discussing tie breakers!

 

[JungleLobo]

Folks let's get by Marquette and Seton Hall first before discussing tie breakers!

St John’s has the tougher closeout with one more game to play than UConn: Villanova and Georgetown coming to town and Seton Hall in Jersey. I’d be surprised if they don’t drop one of those.

 

[Chonky]

I am not sure I care about tying for the reg season but losing the tie breaker.

I don’t really want the likely matchup of the Seton Hall/Creighton winner in the semis. I think we’d do better against Nova.

Of course, regardless, I’d like to win the reg season outright.

 

[HuskyHawk]

TLDR:

Creighton finishes higher than Providence: St John's 1 seed, UConn 2 seed

Providence finishes higher or tied: UConn 1 seed, St John's 2 seed

I'm pretty sure this is backwards. UConn "gains an advantage" when it's loss comes before St. Johns' when working down the standings.

Edit: I’m wrong. Weird they look at quality of wins not quantity of losses. I’d do the opposite.

 

[gsmooth]

I am not sure I care about tying for the reg season but losing the tie breaker.

I don’t really want the likely matchup of the Seton Hall/Creighton winner in the semis. I think we’d do better against Nova.

Of course, regardless, I’d like to win the reg season outright.

If we are worried about facing Seton Hall or Creighton in the Big East Tournament semis then there really is not much hope for this UConn team in the NCAAT. UConn will be facing teams in the NCAAT far more difficult than those two teams. I say, bring it on for those 2 teams.

 

[Chonky]

If we are worried about facing Seton Hall or Creighton in the Big East Tournament semis then there really is not much hope for this UConn team in the NCAAT. UConn will be facing teams in the NCAAT far more difficult than those two teams. I say, bring it on for those 2 teams.

Eh.
The romantic “rah rah” we will play anyone anywhere stuff is nice. Correct attitude for the players.

But if we can’t judge matchups what the heck are we doing on a message board?

 

[Husky15]

Huge win for DePaul over Creighton. If PC beats Creighton this weekend they’ll be tied in the loss column. Would give us a good shot at getting the tiebreaker.