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While we were, badly and obviously, outcoached and outschemed yesterday, I also think we were out-efforted for the second straight week. So I want to say two things in defense of our coaching before I move on to the rest of my post, in which the criticism will come. First, criticism in the aftermath of a win -- any win, no matter how ugly and uninspired -- ought to be tempered. The coach accomplished his primary goal. Will we get our butts kicked by Rutgers if we play like this? Heck yes. But P's goal isn't to make us feel good about this week, and for all that went wrong Saturday none of us know that changing one thing wouldn't have made it worked. Second, because I wish that his National Guard troop would be immediately activated and GDL would be taken to Afghanistan to teach youth football to kids of terrorists, let me give credit where it is due. I killed him -- killed him (and rightfully so I may add) when he put Hyppolite in at FB for a 3rd and short, because you knew he was getting the ball because he wouldn't be in to block. So, on a 3rd and short yesterday, he again brings Hyppolite in for Frank and this times lines McCombs up as the FB in front of Hyppolite. Now, obviously McCombs in going to get the ball here because you didn't line him up at FB to block. Instead, with everyone looking for McCombs to get the ball, the pitch goes to Hyppolite and the 50 yard TD run follows. The same formation produced 1st downs on 3rds and short the next two times it was used. So credit to George for that.

Having taken care of being fair and balanced, now let me tell you what I thought of yesterday. What a dreary, dreary day. The weather was dreary throughtout (although I guess those there were at least thankful that we avoided rain for the day). That was maybe the emptiest I've seen the building for a middle of season game against a BCS foe (although, to be fair, it wasn't the worst by a lot and it wasn't nearly as empty as I feared). There was no fan juice in the building. None at all. Even when it became clear that this was (ugh) going to be a competitive game. We were badly, badly, badly, badly outcoached. An onsides kickoff recovered against us? A great middle screen on a 4th and 4 for a huge game, and the successful hook and lateral. While we ran into the middle on 1st down again and again and again. I'm not TDH, and I'm totally flexible as to a run and pass mix as long as you're not running the same play over and over regardless of its ineffectiveness. But that's what we did. When we threw on 1st down we had success, but we refused to do it more than once in a blue moon. And please let's not forgive a totally uninspired effort from the players either. There seems to be some feeling on the board that well, at least we are throwing decently so there is hope. Well, let me be clear on where I am. I do think there is hope with our passing game, and I congratulate Chandler for the %age of plays he made yesterday without a TO finally. But I would much, much rather go back to be incompetent passing and go back to the energy we played with the first three weeks of the season. I'd take my chances on overcoming a lack of a passing game with sixty kids playing their hearts out. But I didn't see that for the second straight week. And I have to tell you this folks -- that is not on the coaches.

Let's start on D. What the heck was that? I can't believe it is primarily being a DE short without Joseph and Jennings. But it was beyond flatly mediocre. Pruitt I thought played fine, he won't control the area between him and the boundary like a real DE would, but the coaches must have determined that he gives us more there than Willman or any DE off the two deep. We saw a lot of Norris, but I didn't see Norris make many plays. We saw very little of Willman, so that tells us something. I saw Ryan Donohue play one series for Johnson, but I think Jory Johnson may have had his best game as a Husky yesterday. I thought the secondary as a group had its worst game of the year yesterday. Not only did corners get beat deep too often, but the run support was often a joke. So where are we heading into the Big East season? Have we already lost the desire on D to fly around and make plays? Do they miss Joseph and Jennings at SSDE too much? Have teams now figured out that they can hit Brown's D for 2 or 3 well schemed plays a game that burn our D? Is Brown too much of a one trick pony? I don't know the answers to any of that. But I'm worried.

On special teams, both teams had some trouble kicking on the first really raw fall day of the season, but I saw a few things to concern me. First, for the second time in three weeks the KO coverage wasn't there and Chad Christen had to step up and make a tackle. If they don't get better, we will give up a KO TD in conference play. Second, too many bad mental plays, from no one paying any attention to the onside kick to our gunners too often not finding punts and not making plays to keep the ball out of the endzone. To Nick Williams calling off an up man and trying to catch a KO that he can't get to without going to the turf. Two shout outs before moving on. One to Geremy Davis, for recoverning the onside kick (not an easy play -- the ball was low and hard with people charging him). The other to walk-ons Allen and Parker, both of whom are playing regularly in the kicking game.

On offense, I don't even know what to say anymore. We are the worst running team that we've had since moving into the Rent. By far. We saw why Hyppolite is the #2 back, and he made some good aggressive runs, but to be fair he didn't seem like he had patience to wait for a hole -- he just got the ball and ran, and when nothing was there he got stuffed. Osiecki played just under half the game for Frank at FB, and the one individual effort he made after catching the one ball was outstanding. Again, our passing numbers are good, but we don't seem to have any confidence in our passing game. None. We did avoid turnovers, which is obviously good but it didn't go with enough tough D or consistent running to make the win easy.

So we're now entering Big East play, and this team is largely a mystery to me. If I want to be an optimist, we have the potential -- we've shown things at times -- that makes me think we can play shutdown D and surprise teams with our passing game if they're overplaying the run. A recipe that could allow us to win out at home, win at the Carrier Dome and maybe -- just maybe -- steal one more. On the other hand, if we play D the way we've played it the last two weeks, and our O gets shut down (which could happen against anybody any day), we will struggle to beat anyone other than Temple and won't go bowling again. I really, really don't know what to expect. I expect very little of GDL at this point, to be frank, but hope to be surprised. But, as I've said, I'm more concerned about whether we see the D of the first 3 weeks as opposed to the D of the last two. But, as the end of OOC play is a good time to ask how we're doing, the answer is not as well as I thought. I thought we'd be 4-1 by now, and I thought we'd have a great D and now I'm worried we don't. The O I expected to be a struggle, but it's stange that it's as big a struggle as it is with our passing hitting the percentage of completions it is. We will see what we will see. But I'm cautiously pessimistic, rather than cautiously optimistic. And given that I'm an optimist ....
 
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Very nice writing, as always. You keep me coming back, I'm not sure how that makes you sit with others around here, but whatever...

I think all of our problems lie with the offensive line. Defenses are going to get beat, and your safeties and mike linebacker, as good as they are, are still sophs, and learning. They need to do a much better job of staying within in the framework of a defense, and doing their jobs downfield. Smallwoods shoulder hit on the receiver, that just accelerated him, rather than wrapping up is inexcusable, and byron and tymeer can't rely on speed and athleticism to cut off angles all the time if they get out of position.

Gratz plays with moxie, but better not slip and fall when you're up against an opposing #1 wideout.

The problem in this game, is the same problem that we had against Maryland. 3 and outs, running the ball on offense late in games.

It's on the offensive line to step up to the plate and start playing smashmouth with a multiple possesion lead, at that point in a game, AND they're being asked to by the coaches.

We are playing OL's that have learned how to play differently in the past year, and they are much, MUCH better at pass blocking, which was something we simply did not do well with OL's in the past, but they now need to get back that other half of the game at OL - and that's the snot blowing, drooling, meanness of playing OL in the running game, when your team is up and it's time to grind out a game
 
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The Buffalo coaches called a couple of nice trick plays, but they weren't very impressive other than that.
 
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While we were, badly and obviously, outcoached and outschemed yesterday, I also think we were out-efforted for the second straight week. So I want to say two things in defense of our coaching before I move on to the rest of my post, in which the criticism will come. First, criticism in the aftermath of a win -- any win, no matter how ugly and uninspired -- ought to be tempered. The coach accomplished his primary goal.​
I don't mean to nitpick, but my feeling is that winning in any given week is the immediate goal. The primary goal is to improve each week to the point that you have a chance to win the maximum number of games in a season, and perform well against your strongest competitors. So we accomplished (just barely against inferior competition) our immediate goal. We did not imo acomplish our primary goal.​
 

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I agree with a lot of your post, Biz. I'll take the cautiously optimistic angle (shocking, I know).

Defense: You summed up my feelings about the defense pretty well. I am always a little tentative to criticize the D, since it is still the best asset that this team has. But I have to say that I am more than shocked at the amount of offense that both Buffalo and WMU were able to muster against it. Still, I see a lot of great things out there, and it still seems to me that Shamar is not 100% yet. I think they will continue to improve as the BE schedule goes on.

Offense: If there was one positive over the last two games that I could point to, it's that if Chandler gets time in the pocket, he is a pretty good QB. Pretty efficient, throws a nice ball, and has cut down on the turnovers big time. The same bland run up the middle on first down really does have to stop. Let's hope that DeLeone learns his lesson on that in the same manner that he has seemed to learn his lesson on the wildcat. I would also love to see them get more stuff for McCombs and Osiecki in the flat.

I am anxiously awaiting the Rutgers game. I am cautiously optimistic that we are going to win the game. But there are definitely a lot of things to fix, and shockingly they are on both sides of the ball...
 
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The team has been very flat the past two weeks which isn't surprising given the MAC teams and last week's dreary location. There is no way that continues vs Rutgers. I expect to see the same energy we had vs Maryland next week.

We really need to stop scheduling MAC games except for UMASS. Hopefully the Big East goes to a 9 game conference schedule.
 

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The team has been very flat the past two weeks which isn't surprising given the MAC teams and last week's dreary location. There is no way that continues vs Rutgers. I expect to see the same energy we had vs Maryland next week.

We really need to stop scheduling MAC games except for UMASS. Hopefully the Big East goes to a 9 game conference schedule.

I agree with all of these points.

It's not an excuse for the players, but at the same time you have to realize everyone is human and as a fan I had never been more unexcited for a UConn football, so I can imagine they felt the same way.
 
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Lack of excitement, effort, enthusiasm by the players is definitely on the coaches. Every coach talks about "buy in", "commitment" so if it isn't there who is responsible?
Uconn defense hasn't solved the spread/shot passing/mobile QB offense. If team tries standard run/run/drop back pass (guess like Uconn offense) against us we are stout. Short crossing patterns work against us, need LB's and CB's for QB pressure; leaves short passes open or deep. Too much to ask defense to win games, should be keeping offense in games where good offensive play wins games.
We are NCST/Maryland/WM/Buffalo level team which is pretty hard to dispute given our 2-2 record and that all the games were withing 7 points.
We are seeing the limits of a PP coached team. Get used to it.
 
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Wow. Normally you take the optimistic pov, and i'm all jacked up to call out the coach or maybe a player position. But today our roles are reversed. i saw most of the game and the first half was very good. I was expecting UConn to step it up in the 2nd and close it out early and instead they plain died. Oh well. If the second half was as good as the first we all would be singing watch out RU.

Instead all that matters is giving RU all they can handle. If we do and walk away with a W we will all say how close to the vest the UConn coaching staff played it. If we get wacked then its over for the year. I think the team will show up and reveal their identity and win. If not then its been a very dissappointing season. But for now I hold onto the thought that UConn will rock RU.

ps I hope the Storrs CVS has a very potent stock of ginco this week.
 

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While I agree with most of what Bizlaw has this week including it was a great play on the onside kick by Davis -

A: When they come out flat more often than not how does the staff not own some of that
B: Winning out at home seems almost impossible with Cincinnati coming to the rent
 
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My goodness, how can you criticize Hyppolite for getting stuffed at the LOS and not have the same critique of McCombs? H0w is that fair?

BTW, it's hard for players to play with confidence and enthusiasm when the play calling shows them the coaches are playing not to lose.
 
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My goodness, how can you criticize Hyppolite for getting stuffed at the LOS and not have the same critique of McCombs? H0w is that fair?

BTW, it's hard for players to play with confidence and enthusiasm when the play calling shows them the coaches are playing not to lose.


THat's a crock. There's nothing that should fire an offensive line up more, than having the outcome of a game put in their hands, with run blocking, and that's exactly what happened when we went conservative play calling late in the game.

I don't know what it is with our OL, but they need to start playing wth some meanness and aggression when it comes to run blocking - CONSISTENTLY. Pass blocking is much more technically difficult than run blocking, and they're much better at it. They simply got to get mean. I don't see it.

You want to see what that meanness and intensity looks like on offense? BL pointed it out - fullback Mike Osieski, or however you spell it. Look at the look in Whitmer's eyes on TV, if you've got it recorded, after he fought for that first down, late, that we needed more of.

I personally, don't want an air-raid offense, 70 point games. THat's not complimentary football to me, and that doesn't teach teamwork.

I want a f8Cking offensive line that intimidates a defensive line, with simple hard nosed, clean plant your defender into the ground blocking. It's all attitude and energy.

It's conference play time now, and there's no excuses anymore.
 
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Lack of excitement, effort, enthusiasm by the players is definitely on the coaches. Every coach talks about "buy in", "commitment" so if it isn't there who is responsible?

Let's play with this comment. In my opinion - It's on the coaches, the players and the fans. How many times over the years have we heard that they (players) feed off the crowd? We heard how they felt by the noise we made @ MD. I realize we can get into a chicken/egg circular discussion with this and that is not my intent.

... And if a player(s) don't buy in, remain committed, strive to get better each and every week - what are the coaches option? Reduce playing time, bench them, ignore it and hope for the best? I think some of the "why is so & so not playing" have to do with commitment not on game day but during prep (again, my read - no inside info).

Why are we so fearful to critique players...? I'm not advocating hateful/ mean spirited behavior by any means.
 
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After 40 years of supporting this team, I think the wind is coming out of my sails. Even at the 1-aa level, in good years and bad, the teams were always exciting and competitive, be that as it may given the skills of the athletes and the week in week out competition. Jackson and Holtz certainly put UConn in the upper reaches of 1-aa.

But yesterday, I'm sorry to say, I had a hard time get up and screaming my head off for third down stops. Fans are right......no more juice left in a lemon. And the look on my friends faces when we stared in shock at Buffaloes resurgance at the end of the game.

I'm a huge college football fan, and it befuddles me when you hear commentators year in year out suggest that coaches (of major BCS programs) philosophy is you keep running the same play until the other teams show thet can stop it. To me 1st and ten run up the middle for maybe a couple/few yards sort of suggests the other teams have basically stopped the play.

Did any of our coaches ever get the same coaching memo on basic FBS philosophies?

UConn is not Rutgers, Cincinnatti, Louisville, Pittsburgh, or Syracuse as far as having an offense that can compete with the "big boys". Who does that leave.......Temple? maybe USF? No more wind........
 

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I want a f8Cking offensive line that intimidates a defensive line, with simple hard nosed, clean plant your defender into the ground blocking. It's all attitude and energy.

Absolutely, Carl! Absolutely. I think that many would agree that the Osiecki play was perhaps the best play of the day. There was a kid who was absolutely determined not to go down! The OLine seems to lack that attitude on a regular basis. I'm not sure if it is the switch from Foley to DeLeone as the OLine coach (which I wish didn't happen, by the way), or if it's the personality set of the current personnel, etc. But they do need to get back to saying, "Hey...I weigh 25 pounds more than the guy across from me, and it's time to teach him a lesson..."
 
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Let's play with this comment. In my opinion - It's on the coaches, the players and the fans. How many times over the years have we heard that they (players) feed off the crowd? We heard how they felt by the noise we made @ MD. I realize we can get into a chicken/egg circular discussion with this and that is not my intent.

... And if a player(s) don't buy in, remain committed, strive to get better each and every week - what are the coaches option? Reduce playing time, bench them, ignore it and hope or he best? I think some of the "why is so & so not playing" have to do with commitment not on game day but during prep (again, my read - no inside info).

Why are we so fearful to critique players...? I'm not advocating hateful/ mean spirited behavior by any means.


I think that if you want to start somewhere with the fans, it's a good idea to point out the positive energy suckers full of piss and wind, that are so happy to write around here about every possible failure, rather than actually learn how to properly critique something.

You think it doesn't matter? It does. People pay attention to what's written around here, and the negative nancy's are all to happy to get their 15 minutes of fame.

I really hate energy suckers. Nothing worse.
 
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After 40 years of supporting this team, I think the wind is coming out of my sails. Even at the 1-aa level, in good years and bad, the teams were always exciting and competitive, be that as it may given the skills of the athletes and the week in week out competition. Jackson and Holtz certainly put UConn in the upper reaches of 1-aa.

But yesterday, I'm sorry to say, I had a hard time get up and screaming my head off for third down stops. Fans are right......no more juice left in a lemon. And the look on my friends faces when we stared in shock at Buffaloes resurgance at the end of the game.

I'm a huge college football fan, and it befuddles me when you hear commentators year in year out suggest that coaches (of major BCS programs) philosophy is you keep running the same play until the other teams show thet can stop it. To me 1st and ten run up the middle for maybe a couple/few yards sort of suggests the other teams have basically stopped the play.

Did any of our coaches ever get the same coaching memo on basic FBS philosophies?

UConn is not Rutgers, Cincinnatti, Louisville, Pittsburgh, or Syracuse as far as having an offense that can compete with the "big boys". Who does that leave.......Temple? maybe USF? No more wind........

Syracuse has lost their last 8 games against FBS teams and their last 5 against us. Let's not put them on a pedestal.
 
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Absolutely, Carl! Absolutely. I think that many would agree that the Osiecki play was perhaps the best play of the day. There was a kid who was absolutely determined not to go down! The OLine seems to lack that attitude on a regular basis. I'm not sure if it is the switch from Foley to DeLeone as the OLine coach (which I wish didn't happen, by the way), or if it's the personality set of the current personnel, etc. But they do need to get back to saying, "Hey...I weigh 25 pounds more than the guy across from me, and it's time to teach him a lesson..."


I agree. I think back to some of the most powerful football teams I've ever seen, and the concept that a team would go conservative late in a game, and count on their running game to grind out a game? That's a problem?

The problem is that the players weren't able to do it - against BUFFALO!!!

So - you've got to ask yourself - are our players simply not big enough and talented enough, to be able to run the ball effectively against buffalo and grind out a few first downs and end the game? If the answer is yes - then you've got your answer to what our problem as a team is. If the answer is no - you think we are big enough and talented enough? Then you've got to figure out why. Is it play calling? No. There's nothing wrong with the play. It's smashmouth football.

That leads me to the conclusion I've come to. Attitude on the OL. They aren't mean enough.

Somebody suggested the players need to have a sit down with th coaches - for f(Cking real? What kind of bs is that. No football player ever goes into a coach's office and tells them what to do.

IF there's to be a player meeting, the entire squad needs to line up the OL unit, and call them a bunch of p2ssies, and if they keep playing like it, they'll get their butts whipped, not by the other tem, but our team too, and see how they react.

I'm serious.
 

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I think that if you want to start somewhere with the fans, it's a good idea to point out the positive energy suckers full of piss and wind, that are so happy to write around here about every possible failure, rather than actually learn how to properly critique something.

You think it doesn't matter? It does. People pay attention to what's written around here, and the negative nancy's are all to happy to get their 15 minutes of fame.

I really hate energy suckers. Nothing worse.

Um your main energy sucker got killed in the spring for pointing out the offensive line sucks and it would kill the season. Would you like me to bump the posts for you?

As for people paying attention to what's written around here.... play better. This isn't the CCC South. Give the fans a reason to believe. Beat MAC teams, don't curl up in the fetal position against Buffalo with a 17 point lead.

I hate idiots that change their stories every 10 posts. Does that make us even?
 
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Uh, it wasn't a gem but we won. How do you think GT feels losing to MTSU or, last week, Iowa lost at home to a MAC school? There are far worse things than playing flat or without style and having coaches that make you want to tear your hair out. Really. PP is a fair placeholder for the moment. Soon enough I expect further conference nonsense and new coaches. In the meantime the players are up for RU and suspect we will not be displeased with the effort.
 
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Calling out the O Line when EVERYONE IN THE FREAKING STADIUM knew what we were going to do . . . surely you can't be serious. Sorry, Art Shell, Gene Upshaw, Larry Little, Ron Yary and Mike Webster couldn't have saved that game "plan"
 
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Calling out the O Line when EVERYONE IN THE FREAKING STADIUM knew what we were going to do . . . surely you can't be serious. Sorry, Art Shell, Gene Upshaw, Larry Little, Ron Yary and Mike Webster couldn't have saved that game "plan"

And they weren't blocking for Jim Brown.
 
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Gonna be a long next saturday if this team isn't hiding anything,this board is gonna melt.

It's close to melting now. You'd never guess we actually WON the game yesterday by looking at the subject titles on this page. That's how bad the general feeling is about the state of things with this team.
 
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