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That was probably the worst college football game I've ever seen. It was absolutely unwatchable, and reminded me of bad high school games. You know what you learn about how good your offense or defense is on a day like yesterday? Close to nothing. The weather was obviously such that passing was unproductive at best, or impossible at worse. And, with passing not a threat, neither team could block well enough to have any semblance of a running game. All there was to get out of yesterday was a win or a loss, because at the end of the year the game counts the same as a game played on a perfect fall afternoon. And we won. Jamar Summers made a remarkable pick, and after not making the right moves to put the ball in the end zone against BYU a month ago, this time he made a great return. After that, our Defense totally manhandled Tulane's offense, only letting them inside our 40 once. And our offense, while it couldn't generate much (and, with help from our FG blocking, failed to score on the one drive where it had a chance), outgained Tulane 3 to 2 and, with the exception of the hail Mary to end the first half, didn't turn the ball over. And the result was, in a must win game where the weather took everything but the fact that one team could and would come away with a win, we won. And, notwithstanding that was only a 4 point game and we were always one play from losing, at no time in the second half did Tulane ever threaten to actually win the game. It was the most comfortable 4 point win ever.

A special shout out to the UConn fans who were in NO. On a day where any sane person would have left by halftime, you guys not only stayed but, in the empty stadium, were heard chanting "defense" and at other times. My hat is off to every one of you (although to be clear, if I had been there my rainhat wouldn't have come off for anything short of an order at gunpoint).

Offense, defense and specials. The OL went back to being overmatched yesterday, especially against the run. Hopefully, that was just weather and Tulane knowing we couldn't throw effectively, and the improvement we had been seeing comes back against Houston. Shirreffs clearly couldn't handle the weather, but injured or worn down or not (and I don't know where the injured rumor has come from -- if someone actually knows something please share), but he played mistake free football and was able to be the most effective offensive threat either team had running the ball, helping us shorten the game. The receivers did not come through -- Bloom's drop especially was a killer, weather or not. So Ron Johnson, finally, sat. I don't think we learned much about Mariner in the weather, but damn -- after the first run didn't Max deserve more of a chance? Doesn't he still. And kudos to the staff for designing the TD play to Bloom. The fact that he dropped it doesn't change the fact that they put our players in position for a very easy TD

On defense, it's tempting to say we were great, but we were just able to overwhelm them on a day that they threw the ball 40 times for basically no net yardage if you subtract the interception return and the sacks. Yes, Stewart looked great and Jamar won the game and I thought both Obi and Campennis played great as well, but I'm not willing to praise defensive players any more than I'm willing to beat up on offensive players. Control Houston in two weeks and talk to me. And I understand the desire to be over aggressive when the offense can't move the ball, but neither Summers allowing the first down because he played the ball exclusively and not the man, or Graham not going to the ground on the fumble because he wanted 6, can happen. Make the plays that are there. Any gambles against Houston will be punished.

On specials, a rare but deserved shout out to Dominick Manco, who for four years has done his job so perfectly that he's never been mentioned (except that weird snap at MIzzou where he thought he had an offsides). But in yesterday's conditions, and constant snaps, he came through when we most needed it. Same with Wain, who wasn't great kicking but made the catches clean and got the ball off every time without a disaster. Last comment on specials -- I love it when walk ons contribute and I know Vitale played at Stony Brook but he can't put the ball on the ground every game and hope nothing bad happens. Can Beals do it?

So yesterday was not a step back or a step forward for the program -- it just was a win that we needed to extend this season. We will easily be double digit dogs each of the next two games, and winning a sixth will require a major upset. But getting to a bowl -- whether deserved at 6-6 or luckily at 5-7 -- will be the start to next year with the extra practices and a reward for our departing seniors who have never been. To paraphrase Bachmann Turner Overdrive, yesterday was taking care of business. The bigger question, however, is whether "we ain't seen nothing yet." if we haven't, it's more likely to be at home against Houston. We will be coming off our much needed and delayed off week, they will be in a trap week between Memphis and Navy, and maybe we'll have frigid New England weather that slows down the mostly Texan roster. We ain't seen nothing yet? We will see. But it's good to be playing big games right to the end of our season. And, to answer some of the discussions the Board has been having, 5 wins is not the goal to be a good season for this program. But for this year, 5 wins and the play we've had -- the incredible jump we've had in the computer rankings -- has been nothing short of remarkable. If people are "settling" for the program being stuck at 5 wins going forward that will be another matter altogether.

Hope the players get some physical and mental rest and everyone enjoys the week off. And then here is hoping that every Boneyarder does what he can to get a few extra people into the building for Houston.
 
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Things are sort of set up perfectly for to catch Houston napping. Late November. Houston playing at home against a Memphis team that could be dejected from having their perfect season spoiled. Houston wins that and they will be looking ahead to their showdown with Navy for the division title. Average tempature for that time a year is 40 degress or so. Would help if its a tad colder.

Hopefully the fans show up in numbers and the place is rocking.
 

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Unwatchable? Try unlistenable! I helped my brother move all day yesterday and the only thing we had was a very faint and choppy TIC 1080 signal. Listening to Joe D bumble his way through a football game is downright painful. Listening to him bumble through a game of nonstop 3 and outs and punts is motivation for one to help out with all of the heavy lifting.
 
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Unwatchable? Try unlistenable! I helped my brother move all day yesterday and the only thing we had was a very faint and choppy TIC 1080 signal. Listening to Joe D bumble his way through a football game is downright painful. Listening to him bumble through a game of nonstop 3 and outs and punts is motivation for one to help out with all of the heavy lifting.

LOL If you didn't watch it, and actually accomplshed something productive during the game, I don't feel badly for you.
 

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The biggest takeaway from yesterday was the entire UConn team was on the same page. Ball security, keep the play in front of you and stay disciplined.

We're near Veteran's Day. The Navy SEALS have an expression that UConn adopted yesterday.

"Embrace The Suck"

Good point that the only thing coming out of yesterday was a win or a loss.
 

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It reminded me of the game at Temple in the remnants of a tropical storm in 2008. All you could tell from that game was that Donald Brown could run the ball. Having been at that game, I have a lot more sympathy for the players trying to play in this one. I think it's absurd to try to make some sort of sweeping statement about our offense from that games... but that doesn't stop the contextually challenged among us from trying.
 

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Agreed on Max. Once again, did not understand why we were not trying to give the guy the ball. On D, Steward played like a beast - MVP for the game. I thought he deserved his own thread, but since you brought it up - Obi. I mean OBI! He is looking like he has turned the corner at this point - he looks like an absolute stud in the secondary. He's a ballhawking centerfielder, solid on man coverage, sure tackler and a playmaker. He is playing at the level that we've seen glimpses of since his freshman year. I loved the play where he just ran over the WR in the flat. He looked extremely confident out there.
 
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Diaco has these kids in a good place. A lot of teams, especially on the road, would have made mistakes to lose a game like that. That we controlled our defensive line of scrimmage so convincingly tells me the S&C programming is taking hold. I can only hope that the days of OLmen at UCONN putting up 15 reps on the bench are behind us.

I have know idea if Sherrifs is nursing an injury, but I have suspected RonJon has and I wonder if the wet field kept him on the bench.

How anyone could not characterize this season as progress is beyond me. And I agree that a bowl would be huge primarily for the momentum into next season and additional practice,

My niece had the nerve to schedule her wedding for the Sat. afternoon of the Houston game. I could still go to the game, but cannot afford the divorce..........
 

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I feel yesterday was a step forward. Two subtle things have happened the last 2 weeks that are monumental in building a winning mentality.

One, last week against ECU, when we scored on the drive right after ECU cut the lead to 11. That is something winning teams do.
Two, yesterday, we had no turnovers that hurt and we won a game that last year we found a way to lose.

We still have to get the offensive line to be more functional and ultimately a strength and we have to get the receivers to stop dropping passes, but this team is learning how to win.

On that vein, Shireffs is not the game changing qb most people want. He is mostly a game manager but with a gutsy playmaker in him. I think his right should is hurt, but only think that by watching him struggle with a release point after not having that problem for the first 6 games or so. His throws are not the same motion. He is definitely a good college qb, better than we have had in a while. If someone can beat him out next year or the year after, then we will have 2 really good QBs on the roster.
 

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My niece had the nerve to schedule her wedding for the Sat. afternoon of the Houston game. I could still go to the game, but cannot afford the divorce.....
Same issue here - brother-in-law is getting married on game day. Stinks.
 

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One thing of note - we had seen Rutherford at FB and heard Anderson might get time there too. Unless I missed it we didn't put that on tape against Tulane. Diaco has also cut back on the trick plays and dingbat fakes for the most part recently. I'm wondering what we'll see in a meaningful game.
 
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This is a fair assessment. I still can't think of a reason why the OL couldn't function at a competent level in that weather, but whatever.
 
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It's not because the OL can't function in the rain. It's because all 11 defenders were playing against the run and not worrying about the pass. On both teams,

I get that. Even taking that into account, it was pretty bad.
 
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It's not because the OL can't function in the rain. It's because all 11 defenders were playing against the run and not worrying about the pass. On both teams,
To be fair, their interior Dline guys had their way against our interior 3 guys. Samra and Vechery had rough games in particular. We had the one nice drive however which is really one more than they had.
 
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On specials, a rare but deserved shout out to Dominick Manco, who for four years has done his job so perfectly that he's never been mentioned (except that weird snap at MIzzou where he thought he had an offsides).

And he was correct in that thought, Mizzou player was way offsides at the snap
 

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To be fair, their interior Dline guys had their way against our interior 3 guys. Samra and Vechery had rough games in particular. We had the one nice drive however which is really one more than they had.
Tulane was kind of stout on the interior; their problems have been on offense....
 
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Tulane was kind of stout on the interior; their problems have been on offense....
Those two were very good. The Smart kid will play in the NFL. Classic nose tackle, a little bigger than Campenni and looked to have longer arms as well.
 

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Since this thread tends to stay relatively on topic,.......

Nice to see Marriner continuing to get more snaps. He has paid his dues on ST's and has to be earning the trust of the coaches through his preparation and practice performance.

Also, while Vechery had a tough game, he has been fairly steady for a first year center. Very few botched snaps and moved okay. I'm interested to see how staff uses him and Crozier next season. One will be the CC, the other has inside track at RG
 
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I had the opportunity to watch this one live. Painful. Eyes bleeding painful.

I cannot recall a college game ever where the offense and kicking game was shut out, and the team still won. THat's one for the stat geeks to look up.

We will not win games that way regularly. Obviously. I'm reaching on nubmrs now, becaus there is a poster around here that likes to pick arguments based on inane things like frivolous numbers chosen to illustrate, so I'm putting this pre-emptive comment in about inexact numbers chosen for illustraiton - so: 99 out of 100 times, and probably 999 out of 1000 times, you're not going to win games when you fail to score a single point out of the units on the team that are supposed to score points. Especially on the road.

We managed to be the statistic and win, and it's great thing to hang your hat on for mental toughness, that's it. THe game was a disaster from a technical standpoint, and there is much, much to identify as mistakes that happened, so that they don't repeat.

But the fact is - given the circumstances - where you've got a team match up on the road that is struggling itself, and the football gods grant a weather day or wind and rain that reminded me of some games in the past (notably as USF win and a Temple loss), we managed to win the one game out of a thousand.

The thing now - is to see if this can turn into a turning point of sorts. We had the opportunity to take a .500 record and push it up several weeks ago, and fumbled.

We've got a bye week now, to prepare for the next opportunity. It will be interesting to see what happens. I'm concerned about this turning into another learning experience, before success experience - but I'm optimistic that the corner can turn.

I'm not expecting a large crowd for Houston, it's just not realistic at this point in time, given everything. I am expecting those that can make it, and if I can't, someone will be in my seats, to be engaged and loud - and I'm expecting that - because I'm expecting the team on the field that's in blue- to perform in such a way that they have reason to be loud.

Proper preparation prevents poor performance.

I remember Rob Lunn wrote something several years ago in his silly blog about bye weeks. It was real good, I'm going to search for it and see if I can find it. I bet it would be a good read at this point in time.
 
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I had the opportunity to watch this one live. Painful. Eyes bleeding painful.

I cannot recall a college game ever where the offense and kicking game was shut out, and the team still won. THat's one for the stat geeks to look up.

We will not win games that way regularly. Obviously. I'm reaching on nubmrs now, becaus there is a poster around here that likes to pick arguments based on inane things like frivolous numbers chosen to illustrate, so I'm putting this pre-emptive comment in about inexact numbers chosen for illustraiton - so: 99 out of 100 times, and probably 999 out of 1000 times, you're not going to win games when you fail to score a single point out of the units on the team that are supposed to score points. Especially on the road.

We managed to be the statistic and win, and it's great thing to hang your hat on for mental toughness, that's it. THe game was a disaster from a technical standpoint, and there is much, much to identify as mistakes that happened, so that they don't repeat.

But the fact is - given the circumstances - where you've got a team match up on the road that is struggling itself, and the football gods grant a weather day or wind and rain that reminded me of some games in the past (notably as USF win and a Temple loss), we managed to win the one game out of a thousand.

The thing now - is to see if this can turn into a turning point of sorts. We had the opportunity to take a .500 record and push it up several weeks ago, and fumbled.

We've got a bye week now, to prepare for the next opportunity. It will be interesting to see what happens. I'm concerned about this turning into another learning experience, before success experience - but I'm optimistic that the corner can turn.

I'm not expecting a large crowd for Houston, it's just not realistic at this point in time, given everything. I am expecting those that can make it, and if I can't, someone will be in my seats, to be engaged and loud - and I'm expecting that - because I'm expecting the team on the field that's in blue- to perform in such a way that they have reason to be loud.

Proper preparation prevents poor performance.

I remember Rob Lunn wrote something several years ago in his silly blog about bye weeks. It was real good, I'm going to search for it and see if I can find it. I bet it would be a good read at this point in time.

Normally, I would be worried about handling an off week. This team, however, was incredibly young to play ten straight weeks including five road games all of which were plane trips and 3 of which were in different time zones. I think they (meaning the starters) will very much benefit from a light workout week, no matter how well or poorly the staff handles the mental aspect of it.
 

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The last time a seemingly inept offense (Seriously, you can't come to any conclusions based on the Tulane game) came out of a bye week to face a high scoring ranked opponent, UConn went to Louisville and sealed the Cardinals' fate outside the BCS. That was 3 year ago to the week from 11/21.

This time the high scoring ranked opponent comes to Connecticut, the team is more talented, better conditioned and is picking up what the coaching staff is putting down.

The phrase of the week is film study, film study, film study.
 
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It reminded me of the game at Temple in the remnants of a tropical storm in 2008. All you could tell from that game was that Donald Brown could run the ball. Having been at that game, I have a lot more sympathy for the players trying to play in this one. I think it's absurd to try to make some sort of sweeping statement about our offense from that games... but that doesn't stop the contextually challenged among us from trying.
I mentioned the exact same game in another post. I was at that Temple game and this one seemed very similar except we don't have Brown. But I found this game weirdly riveting. It was awful but every play was a potential gamechanger. Sort of like a highway crash. you just want to get by but can't resist slowing down to see what is happening.
 
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I mentioned the exact same game in another post. I was at that Temple game and this one seemed very similar except we don't have Brown. But I found this game weirdly riveting. It was awful but every play was a potential gamechanger. Sort of like a highway crash. you just want to get by but can't resist slowing down to see what is happening.

LOL. I said it was unwatchable. That didn't mean that I wasn't fully riveted the entire way.
 
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