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O.K., a few things to cover here.

1. The overwhelming odds when we kicked off at College Park were that even if we had gotten somewhat better or, God forbid, worse, we were going to be 1-2 after 3 games. That’s where we are. We looked as bad as I could have feared on opening day (unfortunately, the game I was at in person), but we looked significantly better than last year, and probably than I would have realistically hoped, in the last two games. Yes, yesterday was winnable (more on that in a moment), but we are record wise where everyone should have expected and quality of play, on balance, showing improvement. It was not a bad first quarter season. Now we get to the part of the schedule that will determine if we reach a bowl and if we can show improvement not just from last season but from ‘22 as well. Because from this moment on, there is probably only one game left (at Syracuse) that we are unlikely to have a reasonable chance to win.

2. I did not expect to be competitive yesterday, especially with Mora’s QB decision (again, more on that later), but we were. We didn’t look like we’d be after their opening possession, but from that moment on the defense was competitive, on the road, against a P-4 school. The offense more than struggled in the first half — I couldn’t believe we didn’t change QBs at the half — but then played much better on back to back drives. And we had a 4th Quarter lead and every chance to win the game and didn’t get it done. Sucks that we didn’t but this was always going to be an uphill struggle, and now we have chances to win games mostly at home (6 of the last 9) and against a lower quality of opponents.

3. The disparity in FG kickers was a huge factor in the loss. I pray that Mora knew what he was doing by going to get Freeman rather than focusing on keeping Ruelas (not to mention benching Ruelas for a McFadden who clearly wasn’t the same post injury) but the jury is out on that, at best, and may will argue that the votes are already being counted (to mix metaphors). I get that.

4. We just didn’t look good enough on the opening drive, but from that moment on the overall defensive performance was really good. After the first drive we gave up barely 300 yards of offense, 19 points and got a defensive TD. Tackling, pass coverage and rush defense — all far from perfect but light years ahead of what we saw in College Park a few weeks ago. Was Durante Jones playing in the first half? I didn’t see him. But the second half was the first time we’ve see Jones and Dixon-Williams on the field together, and not shockingly it looked to make a huge difference in a 5 DB set. I hope Yates is ready now also as we start the deciding portion of our schedule. But I’m hoping the defense is ready to lead us to a 2022 type season at a minimum.

5. Which takes us to the offense. So it was not good enough, and was poor for most of the game, but had a 20 minute stretch where it looked much more competent. The OL seems to be doing its job both running and passing, and the running game was really good. Edwards is going to be a stud by the time he’s done (assuming we can keep him here). The passing game? I really don’t get how you didn’t give Fagnano this game to see if last week was just a mirage, but tons have been said about that so I’m just writing this assuming Evers is the guy. So how was the guy? Clearly better then at Maryland, and therefore the hope is there that, when he gets to play at home and against non P-4 competition, he’s going to be better than what we’ve had for a while. And he did show skill running the ball. I’ll even put aside what looks to be inaccuracy until I see him next week. My concern, however, that I’m totally sold on is the fact that he locks in on one receiver all the time and there is no progressions. The number of times he threw to Bell when Bell was double covered (with a third DB keeping one eye on him) was frankly startling. I’m hard pressed to think that’s going to get better quickly, but it’s Mora’s call so we’ll see.

That’s what I’ve got. I think we’ll know a lot more about where this season is going after next week. Hope we get good weather, a good crowd and a good performance.
 
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How quickly Evers improves in the mental aspects of the game will be the deciding factor. You only get that through reps so I understand why he gets the nod. That and some help from his receivers. Too many drops. I think you pretty much nailed the rest of it. While the kicking game has hurt us it's still a small sample size. Confidence can go a long way. If we can get a few short easy ones to go through maybe Freeman turns the corner. Duke isn't Maryland but our defense is head and shoulders above week one.
 

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Duke is viewed as having a very good run defense, and we ran on them pretty well. Please for the love of anything stop with the screen passes and slow developing gadget play. We are neither quick nor agile in our offensive sets. Run the freaking ball and use play actioin with a sprinkling of QB zone reads. The two "gadgety" plays that actually worked was the unbalanced QB bootleg (inexplicably stepping out of bounds with a clear path to the endzone) and the gang right RB slip route.

Both will now be on every teams scouting report. You know what won't be, anything involving a QB lining up as anything but a QB nor anything thank requires more than one backfield ball exchange.

On defense, stick with the 4 down linemen.
 

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I was really happy with the way the team played. UConn is what it is right now as a football program. Playing competitively against a decent P4 program is a good Saturday for UConn in 2024.


That feeling has a short shelf life. We need to beat mid/lower level P4 teams. It's not that hard.
I thought Evers improved and he would improve more if they called better pass plays for him. He's more successful throwing inside the number than outside and better at 3/5 step throws than straight dropbacks. He needs to throw off play action almost exclusively.

Lastly, If your plan is to kick a 47 yd field goal down 6. You really shouldn't be call weird plays on 2nd and 7. I would prefer you run it on 2nd and 3rd. At worst you have a shorter FG attempt and maybe a shot at going for it on 4th and 1 to keep the drive alive. That call effectively ended the game before the missed FG.
 
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Biz isn’t saying it, because he’s showing restraint. Clearly Mora has settled on Evers for now, but I don’t get it. Evers didn’t come close to earning the next start. The bar for UConn QBs is staggeringly low right now. It was a good performance by the team as a whole. I just can’t help but believe Fagnano could have done better than 50% and 135 yards. He’s better than that. 200 yards would have meant a win. The defense put Duke on its heels. The offense just needed to be a hair better.
 
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Biz isn’t saying it, because he’s showing restraint. Clearly Mora has settled on Evers for now, but I don’t get it. Evers didn’t come close to earning the next start. The bar for UConn QBs is staggeringly low right now. It was a good performance by the team as a whole. I just can’t help but believe Fagnano could have done better than 50% and 135 yards. He’s better than that. 200 yards would have meant a win. The defense put Duke on its heels. The offense just needed to be a hair better.
I have been clear that the decision to pull Fagnano out after last week left me stunned. The easy answer would have been to start him against Duke, when he wasn’t as good (which was almost certain to happen) then you could talk about a change, and if he was as good you would have beaten Duke and there isn’t a problem. I just thought that getting into it here, with a multi page thread existing on the site, would be beating a dead horse.
 

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That feeling has a short shelf life. We need to beat mid/lower level P4 teams. It's not that hard.
I thought Evers improved and he would improve more if they called better pass plays for him. He's more successful throwing inside the number than outside and better at 3/5 step throws than straight dropbacks. He needs to throw off play action almost exclusively.

Lastly, If your plan is to kick a 47 yd field goal down 6. You really shouldn't be call weird plays on 2nd and 7. I would prefer you run it on 2nd and 3rd. At worst you have a shorter FG attempt and maybe a shot at going for it on 4th and 1 to keep the drive alive. That call effectively ended the game before the missed FG.

We are not climbing the ladder to win a national championship in football. Competitive with middle to bottom caliber P4's is the best we can hope for. People need to either enjoy UConn football for what it is, or find a new favorite team. There is always plenty of room on the Michigan, Texas and Alabama bandwagons.
 
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Duke is viewed as having a very good run defense, and we ran on them pretty well. Please for the love of anything stop with the screen passes and slow developing gadget play. We are neither quick nor agile in our offensive sets. Run the freaking ball and use play actioin with a sprinkling of QB zone reads. The two "gadgety" plays that actually worked was the unbalanced QB bootleg (inexplicably stepping out of bounds with a clear path to the endzone) and the gang right RB slip route.

Both will now be on every teams scouting report. You know what won't be, anything involving a QB lining up as anything but a QB nor anything thank requires more than one backfield ball exchange.

On defense, stick with the 4 down linemen.
Not having Rosa ready for the game hurt a lot, out with a broken finger. If Rosa was ok, our offense would’ve had three options on the run, Edwards, Evers, and Rosa. On the short yardage plays, they could’ve used Stafford and told him to just follow Lundt who is a terrific offensive lineman.
 
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O.K., a few things to cover here.

1. The overwhelming odds when we kicked off at College Park were that even if we had gotten somewhat better or, God forbid, worse, we were going to be 1-2 after 3 games. That’s where we are. We looked as bad as I could have feared on opening day (unfortunately, the game I was at in person), but we looked significantly better than last year, and probably than I would have realistically hoped, in the last two games. Yes, yesterday was winnable (more on that in a moment), but we are record wise where everyone should have expected and quality of play, on balance, showing improvement. It was not a bad first quarter season. Now we get to the part of the schedule that will determine if we reach a bowl and if we can show improvement not just from last season but from ‘22 as well. Because from this moment on, there is probably only one game left (at Syracuse) that we are unlikely to have a reasonable chance to win.

2. I did not expect to be competitive yesterday, especially with Mora’s QB decision (again, more on that later), but we were. We didn’t look like we’d be after their opening possession, but from that moment on the defense was competitive, on the road, against a P-4 school. The offense more than struggled in the first half — I couldn’t believe we didn’t change QBs at the half — but then played much better on back to back drives. And we had a 4th Quarter lead and every chance to win the game and didn’t get it done. Sucks that we didn’t but this was always going to be an uphill struggle, and now we have chances to win games mostly at home (6 of the last 9) and against a lower quality of opponents.

3. The disparity in FG kickers was a huge factor in the loss. I pray that Mora knew what he was doing by going to get Freeman rather than focusing on keeping Ruelas (not to mention benching Ruelas for a McFadden who clearly wasn’t the same post injury) but the jury is out on that, at best, and may will argue that the votes are already being counted (to mix metaphors). I get that.

4. We just didn’t look good enough on the opening drive, but from that moment on the overall defensive performance was really good. After the first drive we gave up barely 300 yards of offense, 19 points and got a defensive TD. Tackling, pass coverage and rush defense — all far from perfect but light years ahead of what we saw in College Park a few weeks ago. Was Durante Jones playing in the first half? I didn’t see him. But the second half was the first time we’ve see Jones and Dixon-Williams on the field together, and not shockingly it looked to make a huge difference in a 5 DB set. I hope Yates is ready now also as we start the deciding portion of our schedule. But I’m hoping the defense is ready to lead us to a 2022 type season at a minimum.

5. Which takes us to the offense. So it was not good enough, and was poor for most of the game, but had a 20 minute stretch where it looked much more competent. The OL seems to be doing its job both running and passing, and the running game was really good. Edwards is going to be a stud by the time he’s done (assuming we can keep him here). The passing game? I really don’t get how you didn’t give Fagnano this game to see if last week was just a mirage, but tons have been said about that so I’m just writing this assuming Evers is the guy. So how was the guy? Clearly better then at Maryland, and therefore the hope is there that, when he gets to play at home and against non P-4 competition, he’s going to be better than what we’ve had for a while. And he did show skill running the ball. I’ll even put aside what looks to be inaccuracy until I see him next week. My concern, however, that I’m totally sold on is the fact that he locks in on one receiver all the time and there is no progressions. The number of times he threw to Bell when Bell was double covered (with a third DB keeping one eye on him) was frankly startling. I’m hard pressed to think that’s going to get better quickly, but it’s Mora’s call so we’ll see.

That’s what I’ve got. I think we’ll know a lot more about where this season is going after next week. Hope we get good weather, a good crowd and a good performance.
I think this is fairly accurate. Really think the staff is doing everything to get Evers comfortable. I think they knew it was going to take a few games for him and Merrimack was an unfortunate miss due to injury.
I don’t know that Evers would have similar numbers, but it likely would have been a chance for him to get some momentum like Joe.

Very much looking forward to this next stretch. Huge!
 

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QB bootleg (inexplicably stepping out of bounds with a clear path to the endzone
I thought the same thing. I watched the replay to see if he got out of balance or something, but it didn't look like it.
 
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I thought the same thing. I watched the replay to see if he got out of balance or something, but it didn't look like it.
I felt that when he looked over his right shoulder for the defender he took a step off course and blew it. That’s the only explanation other than doing it intentionally.
 

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Not having Rosa ready for the game hurt a lot, out with a broken finger. If Rosa was ok, our offense would’ve had three options on the run, Edwards, Evers, and Rosa. On the short yardage plays, they could’ve used Stafford and told him to just follow Lundt who is a terrific offensive lineman.

Rosa is third on the depth chart behind Edwards and Robinson. Both of them ran the ball and caught the ball just fine.

UConn's run game has been very good the past two games. Depth never hurts and Rosa has a great nose for the end zone but there isn't any particular skill Rosa has that Edwards and Robinson don't have.
 
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To have the best chance to win we need a QB that is an accurate passer first. We have RBs and receivers that can get the job done and right now are better at those position groups than last year overall. As others have said play action off a decent run game should be the main focus of our offense. Having a QB that can run when protection breaks down is nice but the passing part has to be the main threat from that position. We will see how this progresses in the next 2 games.
 

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Not having Rosa ready for the game hurt a lot, out with a broken finger. If Rosa was ok, our offense would’ve had three options on the run, Edwards, Evers, and Rosa. On the short yardage plays, they could’ve used Stafford and told him to just follow Lundt who is a terrific offensive lineman.
Rosa is third on the depth chart behind Edwards and Robinson. Both of them ran the ball and caught the ball just fine.

UConn's run game has been very good the past two games. Depth never hurts and Rosa has a great nose for the end zone but there isn't any particular skill Rosa has that Edwards and Robinson don't have.

I will add this. Rosa's best skill, and it shouldn't be undervalued, is his nose for the end zone. He did as a freshman and he did it against Merrimack. He knows how to get in to the end zone and that is a skill UConn surely needs.

As for the short yardage and using Stafford and Lundt. On the Edwards' TD run against Duke they used that concept, except they used Stafford to blow the gap up and Edwards had an easy lane to the end zone.
 
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Rosa seems way under utilized to me. Could he not be some kind of Julian Edelman? Short passes in space and let him get some yards after the catch? He’s a playmaker and needs to be more involved.
 
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Rosa isn't some magical son of krypton and we didn't run so much that we exhausted our two other running backs
 
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Rosa seems way under utilized to me. Could he not be some kind of Julian Edelman? Short passes in space and let him get some yards after the catch? He’s a playmaker and needs to be more involved.
I don’t believe he has Julian Edelman’s hands.
 
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To have the best chance to win we need a QB that is an accurate passer first. We have RBs and receivers that can get the job done and right now are better at those position groups than last year overall. As others have said play action off a decent run game should be the main focus of our offense. Having a QB that can run when protection breaks down is nice but the passing part has to be the main threat from that position. We will see how this progresses in the next 2 games.
This is my view. I’ve always said in a quarterback you want a passer first who can run when necessary, not a runner first, who can pass.

Biz, good to see you back at it!
 
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Rosa is third on the depth chart behind Edwards and Robinson. Both of them ran the ball and caught the ball just fine.

UConn's run game has been very good the past two games. Depth never hurts and Rosa has a great nose for the end zone but there isn't any particular skill Rosa has that Edwards and Robinson don't have.
Rosa does have a “nose for the end zone”, but that comes from his ability to break tackles and keeping his balance when he gets hit, as is his ability to change direction. His speed in the open field isn’t too shabby either. He has pretty good hands too. You can keep your depth chart.
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I thought the same thing. I watched the replay to see if he got out of balance or something, but it didn't look like it.
I thought the same thing in real time when it happened. I got annoyed that he didn't stay in bounds-that's just sloppy. Evers has to remain inbounds. Opportunities like that cannot be missed. Him running out of bounds like that annoyed me in the same a way a WR drops a pass that hits him in the numbers.
 
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We are not climbing the ladder to win a national championship in football. Competitive with middle to bottom caliber P4's is the best we can hope for. People need to either enjoy UConn football for what it is, or find a new favorite team. There is always plenty of room on the Michigan, Texas and Alabama bandwagons.
Don’t forget Georgia
 
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We are not climbing the ladder to win a national championship in football. Competitive with middle to bottom caliber P4's is the best we can hope for. People need to either enjoy UConn football for what it is, or find a new favorite team. There is always plenty of room on the Michigan, Texas and Alabama bandwagons.
Uconn women’s basketball had its first National Championship in 1995, and men got their first four years later. Were we climbing a ladder to win a National Championship when they built Gampel in the early 90’s? Guess what happened just a few years later? Before those years UConn was competitive in major college basketball since the Corny Thompson years. My point is I have higher expectations than you, and if you are content with maybe a bowl game in a few years that’s fine, but if the school can put more money into the football program then anything is possible over the next 5 or 10 years, especially in a 12 team playoff. You can take your “UConn Fieldhouse” mentality and apply it to football, and have a few beers, but you’ll always be about as proud as URI fans are in basketball.
 
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If your plan is to kick a 47 yd field goal down 6. You really shouldn't be call weird plays on 2nd and 7. I would prefer you run it on 2nd and 3rd. At worst you have a shorter FG attempt and maybe a shot at going for it on 4th and 1 to keep the drive alive. That call effectively ended the game before the missed FG.
This was the killer and most of it is on Sammis. A friend, an astute football guy and former OC at a small school who was watching from Texas, said the game came down to this sequence.

"With the score 26-21 you get great field position on a Duke punt and start moving the ball toward the go ahead score--while importantly churning the clock. 1st and 10 on the Duke 30. Then came the worst series of play calls of the day. 3yd run by QB, long incompletion into double coverage (why?!) leaving 3rd and 7. Two runs were the calls at that time. Or at least a backside screen after a short sprint right. QB threw at feet of too many receivers--accuracy issues. Never picked up any yards to help your kicker. The OC needs to regroup."
 

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