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Message: [QUOTE="JordyG, post: 2588515, member: 6819"] Preach BC. Firstly the vacation of wins is both ludicrous and vacuous. We as fans and sports appreciators are supposed to ignore the facts of what we saw. Or as Richard Pryor once said, "Who are you going to believe, me or your lyin' eyes?". Maybe we are supposed to go back in time and help Michigan win the game. Second, I've always been one who believes that college players perform a service and should be paid anyway. The bottom [B]factual[/B] line is these players are 17 and 18 year old boys when they are recruited. The [B]fact[/B] is, whether it is morally right or not, the availability of young women is part of the recruitment process. Do not tell me this only goes on in Louisville, because it does not. This happens across the country in MCBB. Yes, the NCAA has the right to enforce their rules and codes. Yet, this organization make tons and boatloads of money off of these athletes. Athletes that make little to nothing for their services and are then punished when its revealed they have received anything beyond nothing. Also, let's not make the mistake in thinking this is punishment against Pitino. Pitino is being investigated by the FBI and will never coach again. Vacating wins does not hurt the institution nor does it hurt recruitment. Neither does the so called "death penalty". Penn State was up and running after a mere 2 years. Scholarship reductions and forfeiture of monies received be d***ed, these institutions quickly trundle on. This "punishment" hurts only the players on those winning teams. It tarnishes [B]their [/B]legacy. No one else. Hookers? Sorry. My righteous indignation meter moves barely a few ticks. But Baylor? Baylor which broke none of the NCAA codes or bylaws? Man, for me the needle hit the top and bounced a few times. This institution condoned foul, disgusting, disreputable, vicious and criminal acts against women that eschews morality and the law. Frankly in my America [B]that [/B]deserves the death penalty. [/QUOTE]

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