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Seven point lead with a minute and a half left? Just don't give up a quick three. Let 'em drive to the basket. Hell, take your chances with them on the foul line. Just don't give up a three! Right?

So then how does Georgetown hit two 3 point shots? Guard the three! Guard the flippin three!!!!. If their big scorer goes to get popcorn . . . someone go with him. If he sits down next to Joe D'A, sit down next to him. Just don't give up a three. That's the game changer. How? How? Guard the three!

GUARD THE THREE!!! Geez
 
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Seven point lead with a minute and a half left? Just don't give up a quick three. Let 'em drive to the basket. Hell, take your chances with them on the foul line. Just don't give up a three! Right?

So then how does Georgetown hit two 3 point shots? Guard the three! Guard the flippin three!!!!. If their big scorer goes to get popcorn . . . someone go with him. If he sits down next to Joe D'A, sit down next to him. Just don't give up a three. That's the game changer. How? How? Guard the three!

GUARD THE THREE!!! Geez

I'm mad at Bazz for the second one. He was playing help defense at the foul line with his man in the corner. No way you can recover there in time.

Porter hit the first one from pretty deep over DD, who was in position, he just didn't contest. I can't crawl in DD's head, but I have a feeling it was a fatigued moment when his brain reacted to the shot and his legs didn't, and he stayed glued to the floor. He came up big on D a few times before that contesting on shots closer to the hoop.
 
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I'm mad at Bazz for the second one. He was playing help defense at the foul line with his man in the corner. No way you can recover there in time.

Porter hit the first one from pretty deep over DD, who was in position, he just didn't contest. I can't crawl in DD's head, but I have a feeling it was a fatigued moment when his brain reacted to the shot and his legs didn't, and he stayed glued to the floor. He came up big on D a few times before that contesting on shots closer to the hoop.

It wasn't help defense. There was literally no one on Porter.
 
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It wasn't help defense. There was literally no one on Porter.

I often find my initial impressions were off base on second viewing, but I didn't think Bazz ever defended the ball. Looked like he just sagged in around the foul line where a Hoya was flashing to the high post, looking to get a pass or set a high screen. Perhaps the baseline replay was a bad angle, though. My reaction to it live was "dammit Bazz don't leave the guy wide open in the corner" and sometimes your eyes deceive you looking for confirmation of your first impression. If I see a replay that changes my mind, I'll certainly stand corrected.
 

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It wasn't help defense. There was literally no one on Porter.

That was my initial take on it too. I just re-watched the tape -- there was miscommunication about who was guarding Porter. DeAndre was defending Porter straight up under the basket, then Porter popped out at the top of the 3 pt line and DeAndre went under a bunch of screens. Shabazz was facing the other direction and didn't know DeAndre was covering him so he went out to the 3pt line as well.
 
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Above all else, guard the three. Uncontested layups would have hurt less. Guard the damn three. That simple. No excuse for not protecting against the one thing that could have gotten GTown back into the game. GUARD THE THREE!
 

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The Porter shot was from very far out. Give him credit, he made big plays. It was frustrating that the game did not stay won. It was a great game. Bazz played hobbled and still nearly helped us to a win over the #8 team in the country. How did this bunch of survivors come back and get the game into overtime? Maybe that should be the main storyline.

Giffey played GREAT defense. Deandre came of age, made big shots. Omar's got some stones, even with only one wrist. Phil showed some great poise, made some big plays in the first half.

A tough loss, but the "unacceptable" crap is really immature, especially with this team. (This response is more to the other threads than to this one...)
 
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Daniels statement game. He doesn't need to bulk I fear that would make him even slower, just come back next year more refined and confident. his and Giffeys effort on defense is something ill be taking out if this game. Giffey was playing the 5, and well !
 
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That may explain my reaction. From the baseline replay, you could see Daniels trailing Porter and it looked like he was covered fine - since Porter was moving away from the basket, he wasn't an immediate threat. Napier looked like the third defender covering two people and leaving the corner open when he didn't need to.

However, if Daniels was out of Napier's field of vision, he may have seen the need to help. A more forgivable lapse. Sometimes you think you're doing the right thing and it doesn't work out the way you hoped.
 
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However, if Daniels was out of Napier's field of vision, he may have seen the need to help. A more forgivable lapse. Sometimes you think you're doing the right thing and it doesn't work out the way you hoped.

I thought the big problem (watching the broadcast anyway, I haven't gone back to look at it) was that Bazz's hedge left him in no man's land. If Porter had jacked it up, I don't think Bazz would have gotten much of a challenge on that either. So by splitting the spatial difference he became a non-factor with both guys. He used to drive me crazy doing this all the time last year, but I haven't noticed it nearly as much this year.

I thought it was a mental mistake, but c'est la vie. It was minute 49 of an intense, intense game.
 
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That may explain my reaction. From the baseline replay, you could see Daniels trailing Porter and it looked like he was covered fine - since Porter was moving away from the basket, he wasn't an immediate threat. Napier looked like the third defender covering two people and leaving the corner open when he didn't need to.

However, if Daniels was out of Napier's field of vision, he may have seen the need to help. A more forgivable lapse. Sometimes you think you're doing the right thing and it doesn't work out the way you hoped.

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Calhoun was on Porter, he was screened by Starks. Daniels was on Hopkins down low.

As the ball came to Porter, Bazz couldn't see Daniels come off Hopkins because Starks was blocking his view of Daniels coming from behind on the side opposite Calhoun/Starks. When Porter got the ball, Bazz was closest to him and then Daniels closed on Porter. They doubled him. That's when Porter passed to Rivera.

Look at the screenshot as Porter is about to receive the ball. Daniels is deep in the paint on Hopkins.
 

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Easy for us to debate what Bazz should or shouldn't have done. He plays it differently if he didn't hurt his foot. The whole second half would have gone differently if he didn't hurt his foot. The drive to the basket that caused the injury was a thing of beauty till he landed. You could tell he was determined to carry the team in the second half. Sucks for him and the team it couldn't happen. The fans are just collateral damage.

If he lay down on the court on defense just to be available to throw a clutch 3 pointer on offense I wouldn't have criticized the guy. Every shot he took I cringed watching him land on his foot again. I just have a horrible feeling he fractured it.
 
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Calhoun was on Porter, he was screened by Starks. Daniels was on Hopkins down low.

As the ball came to Porter, Bazz couldn't see Daniels come off Hopkins because Starks was blocking his view of Daniels coming from behind on the side opposite Calhoun/Starks. When Porter got the ball, Bazz was closest to him and then Daniels closed on Porter. They doubled him. That's when Porter passed to Rivera.

Look at the screenshot as Porter is about to receive the ball. Daniels is deep in the paint on Hopkins.

Yep - you're right. Only two guys covering two at the top of the key. Napier wasn't the third guy. I didn't get a good read on it from the baseline replay.

Would like to see Calhoun fight off the block from the offensive lineman there a little better so Napier has a better chance to recover, but second OT it can be tough.
 
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Yep - you're right. Only two guys covering two at the top of the key. Napier wasn't the third guy. I didn't get a good read on it from the baseline replay.

Would like to see Calhoun fight off the block from the offensive lineman there a little better so Napier has a better chance to recover, but second OT it can be tough.

LOL, offensive lineman.
 
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The first three by Porter was a bomb from well behind the arc.
 
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LOL, offensive lineman.

That screen cap also isn't very kind to Niels. At that sliver in time, he is facing in the wrong direction, guarding nobody, looking fascinated by the Nike logo on the baseline table. Of course, in full motion, I'm sure he is recovering from getting screened or something and returning to guard his man on the low block, where Daniels is helping.
 
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Hey they caught fire, happens.......good thing is these guys get back to the shooters so much better than years past. I will say this, GTown can't shoot it any better and probably won't again and we had them on the ropes despite that.......

A lot of teams out there happy knowing this team won't be waiting for them in the round of 32 that's for sure!!
 
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Key 3 pointers given up has been our trademark for many years. Its sort of a tradition.

The most important one didn't go in though, and that was Arizona's a couple of years ago.
 
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Key 3 pointers given up has been our trademark for many years. Its sort of a tradition.

The most important one didn't go in though, and that was Arizona's a couple of years ago.

Yep - I was thinking that when Smith-Hyphen hit his in the corner. Same spot Arizona missed with us flying at them late. Perhaps the longs arms of Lamb made a bit of difference to change the trajectory, but I think he just missed the shot. DeAndre Liggins also missed one from the same spot that Porter hit his (inverted from the tv angle) that would have given Kentucky the lead.

I still think Giffey needed to make his to get us even karma-wise after the Darius Rice one. But then again, Rice had 43 that day, so perhaps we picked the wrong guy to throw it to.
 
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CalhounscreenedBazzNomansland_zpsa0496ee1.jpg


Calhoun was on Porter, he was screened by Starks. Daniels was on Hopkins down low.

As the ball came to Porter, Bazz couldn't see Daniels come off Hopkins because Starks was blocking his view of Daniels coming from behind on the side opposite Calhoun/Starks. When
Porter got the ball, Bazz was closest to him and then Daniels closed on Porter. They doubled him. That's when Porter passed to Rivera.

Look at the screenshot as Porter is about to receive the ball. Daniels is deep in the paint on Hopkins.

Great still shot. Nice analysis. Bottom line in simpler terms . . . . Guard the three. The three was the only way GTown can pull out a miracle and win. Seven point lead . . . can't allow them to hit two 3s. Guard the three even if it's at the expense on an easier attempt at a two.
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Calhoun was on Porter, he was screened by Starks. Daniels was on Hopkins down low.

As the ball came to Porter, Bazz couldn't see Daniels come off Hopkins because Starks was blocking his view of Daniels coming from behind on the side opposite Calhoun/Starks. When Porter got the ball, Bazz was closest to him and then Daniels closed on Porter. They doubled him. That's when Porter passed to Rivera.

Look at the screenshot as Porter is about to receive the ball. Daniels is deep in the paint on Hopkins.
 
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