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Message: [QUOTE="nomar, post: 4857308, member: 651"] I live and work in New York City. No, that doesn't happen every day but, yes, frequently, people walk around looking at their phones and not at their surroundings and on occasion I am forced to move out of the way or extend my arms so they don't crash into my body. Defenders can get to the spot first and they don't always get the charge call. You're the one who brought up the deer scenario -- you can be completely blameless even though you "hit the deer not the other way around." I'm not blaming the fan. I'm just saying they collided, because they did. I have no axe to grind here. I'm not a WCBB fan, much less an Iowa or Clark fan. [/QUOTE]