The P2 is dominant

[nelsonmuntz]

Except for today when the Big 10 lost 4 games to non-P2 schools, and the SEC lost to 3 non-P2 schools. Notre Dame lost to Marshall.

But at least Alabama won on the back of the worst call I have seen in years.

NIL and the transfer portal has completely changed the sport. The playoff expansion will further disperse talent. There are a lot of ways to make money and with a title, and Alabama doesn't have a stranglehold on access to the title game anymore.

 

[billybud]

Hooo boy....Duke beat a Big Ten program and Wake an SEC program....

No surprise with Wake...but Duke ...Duke was zero-for in conference last year and has now beaten Northwestern in back to back years in the battle of the brainy bottom feeders.

 

[billybud]

And Texas A&M's loss to Appy State?

A $10 million coach, $30 million in NIL...and a loss to Appy...priceless.

 

[pepband99]

Except for today when the Big 10 lost 4 games to non-P2 schools, and the SEC lost to 3 non-P2 schools. Notre Dame lost to Marshall.

But at least Alabama won on the back of the worst call I have seen in years.

NIL and the transfer portal has completely changed the sport. The playoff expansion will further disperse talent. There are a lot of ways to make money and with a title, and Alabama doesn't have a stranglehold on access to the title game anymore.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, really, but the issue is that "P2" will make all these losses non-issues. The rhetoric will become even more circular. Maybe more teams in the playoff helps a little, but it will really only be those wins the move the needle.

 

[Hogoff]

Pig 2 please guys.

 

[Kolumbo]

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, really, but the issue is that "P2" will make all these losses non-issues. The rhetoric will become even more circular. Maybe more teams in the playoff helps a little, but it will really only be those wins the move the needle.

I'm not so sure. I was flipping the channels and saw that Georgia Southern was up on Nebraska early in the 4th quarter. It certainly piqued my interest. I followed it, then Nebraska took the lead at the 3:11 mark, and everyone knows 311 is from Nebraska. The Eagles flew higher with 36 seconds remaining and the huskers missed a 52 attempt to tie at the buzzer. All Mixed Up! The fact that the P2 are trying to give themselves more advantage might just make these games even more interesting. Granted this is not your father's cornhuskers but that's what the Pig 2 does.

 

[billybud]

And maybe the best game that no one saw....

Seven, I say boy, seven overtimes in the Eastern Ky-Bowling Green game...before Eastern Ky upset FBS Bowling Green.

 

[SubbaBub]

Expect to see more of this. The bottom of any 20-team conference is going to be susceptible to being "upset" by less wealthy programs. It's practically human nature.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Notre Dame and Texas A&M were two top 10 teams that lost to SUN BELT opponents, at home. It wasn't like App State or Marshall beat Missouri or Vandy.

NIL and the transfer portal are leading two a broader distribution of talent. Kids are less likely to sit the bench at a big program when they can play somewhere else and don't have to sit a year to do it. It is definitely human nature.

Some programs will make more money because of TV, but that money is the schools, not the programs, and the schools can do whatever they want with it. NIL money, on the other hand, belongs to the players, and it can come to any university that puts some elbow grease into marketing.

 

[billybud]

Appalachian State didn't beat A&M because of NILs...they beat A&M because they had 8 of 11 on their offensive starter chart and 10 of 11 defensive starters in their 4th and 5th year playing. A pretty good team that had experienced starters.

The Aggies have talent...but young talent and not a developed QB nor coordinated O line...on their offensive starter depth chart they have 7 freshmen-sophomores and six freshmen-sophomores on the defensive starter chart.

The Aggies were young, had problems on the O line and at QB...

Later in the season, with more experience, they will be better although, playing in the SEC, the record may not indicate that.

 

[shizzle787]

I think we will find NIL and the transfer portal will level the playing field significantly in basketball more than even in football. You only need one or two stud players to make a run yearly. Schools out west will really benefit from this as there isn't a lot of competition for fans out there. I expect Pac-12, MW, and WCC schools to benefit from regional businesses who have money to splash and not a lot of schools to splash it on. I think it also benefits the Big East schools who are in local regions with either no competitor or one (UConn, Providence, Seton Hall, Georgetown, Creighton, Marquette).

 

[ZooCougar]

The sun rises in the east.

 

[UConnJim]

Appalachian State didn't beat A&M because of NILs...they beat A&M because they had 8 of 11 on their offensive starter chart and 10 of 11 defensive starters in their 4th and 5th year playing. A pretty good team that had experienced starters.

Yes, App State is an experienced team, but they took advantage of the portal. Their QB came from Clemson/Duke. The backup QB is from Memphis/Texas State. Backup RB is from Wake Forest. 2 starting OL are from Colorado St. and Western Carolina. Starting MLB is from Arkansas and a starting CB is from Central Connecticut. And, they have a couple of backup WRs from UCF and Virginia Tech.

Nelson's point is very valid, NIL and the transfer portal (as well as increased access to the playoff) is going to help disperse talent as players will want to play instead of sitting on the bench and they will follow the money if available. Managing the roster has become a full time job.

 

[billybud]

Chase Brice, QB for Appalachian State, has been on a team for six years, a Methusalah...three at Clemson, one at Duke, and two at Appalachian State. His 50% completion rate for a 4.5 average wasn't the game decider....it was A&M's offensive line that only got 89 yards rushing and a total offense with less than 200 yards. They couldn't protect nor run block.

Aggies had open receivers but King was throwing rushed...threw behind them, in front of them, low in the dirt...

A made FG by Appy State vs a missed FG by the Aggies was the difference in the game at the end.

 

[billybud]

Appalachian State beat #2 Michigan in the 2007 opener....wasn't that Michigan was a bad team...they did win 9 and play in the Capital One Bowl in Orlando...it was early and the time for upsets against teams not jelled.

Wofford beat that same Appy State team by 12 later.

 

[ramses 2.0]

App State has 20 plus super seniors most who are in the 2 deep & they have a strong blueprint implemented by Jerry Moore & continued with Satterfield,Drinkwitz,Clark

 

[Rufus]

If App State keeps playing like that, they might find themselves with an ACC invite after the SEC and B1G raid the ACC in the future.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Notre Dame and Texas A&M were two top 10 teams that lost to SUN BELT opponents, at home. It wasn't like App State or Marshall beat Missouri or Vandy.

NIL and the transfer portal are leading two a broader distribution of talent. Kids are less likely to sit the bench at a big program when they can play somewhere else and don't have to sit a year to do it. It is definitely human nature.

Some programs will make more money because of TV, but that money is the schools, not the programs, and the schools can do whatever they want with it. NIL money, on the other hand, belongs to the players, and it can come to any university that puts some elbow grease into marketing.

Your general point is interesting, but let's be honest...ND was only top 10 because of their name. Nothing about them is special.

 

[billybud]

The weird thing about Appalachian State is that the week before their big upset of the Aggies, they allowed 63 points to be scored on them...and that they had a furious 4th quarter to bring it close (they scored 40 points in the 4th).

 

[Hoophound]

The weird thing about Appalachian State is that the week before their big upset of the Aggies, they allowed 63 points to be scored on them...and that they had a furious 4th quarter to bring it close (they scored 40 points in the 4th).

App St. got some confidence from their game against UNC. They battled them. Now that they took out A&M, that loss to UNC stings even more. They'd be 2-0 with two very nice wins.

 

[ramses 2.0]

The weird thing about Appalachian State is that the week before their big upset of the Aggies, they allowed 63 points to be scored on them...and that they had a furious 4th quarter to bring it close (they scored 40 points in the 4th).

UNC has a ton on talent on the offensive side of the ball that also happens to be extremely versatile. Keep in mind they put 63 on App without their 2 best receivers & the only thing that kept them from putting 50 plus on GSU were 3 TO's

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Big 10 sucked again on Saturday.

 

[TJT]

Big 10 sucked again on Saturday.

One of its teams only won by 59 at home.

 

[Rufus]

Big 10 sucked again on Saturday.

Penn State destroyed Auburn on the road.

This was just the 15th time Auburn has allowed 40+ and lost at home. Penn State first non-conference opponent to score 40+ on the Plains in a win since 1982 Nebraska.

The bottom rung of the Big 10 sucked again on Saturday.

There, I fixed it for you.

 

[Kolumbo]

Big 10 sucked again on Saturday.

It won't matter because the Big 10 is now the Big Mac. It's all about branding and marketing.

Rank	Conference (Teams)	All	Non-Conf	Index	Sos	Sos Rk
1	Southeastern 14	33-9 (79%)	29-5 (85%)	35.31	55.52	1
2	Big 12 10	23-6 (79%)	22-5 (81%)	32.17	51.81	9
3	Atlantic Coast 14	32-10 (76%)	28-6 (82%)	30.26	51.66	10
4	Big Ten 14	32-11 (74%)	29-8 (78%)	29.12	53.03	6
5	Pacific-12 12	25-10 (71%)	24-9 (73%)	27.96	53.38	5
6	Independents 7	8-15 (35%)	8-15 (35%)	21.45	54.12	3
7	American Athletic 11	18-14 (56%)	17-13 (57%)	21.00	52.70	7
8	Mountain West 12	18-20 (47%)	16-18 (47%)	19.99	52.49	8
9	Sun Belt 15	22-22 (50%)	20-21 (49%)	19.43	50.17	12
10	Conference USA 11	17-19 (47%)	15-17 (47%)	17.13	49.10	14
11	Mid-American 12	13-23 (36%)	12-22 (35%)	16.90	53.81	4