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Message: [QUOTE="Scoe, post: 5332157, member: 957"] So ask this question to you all was Daniel Jones the problem or was the Giants organization the problem? Daboll has to do less talking and more winning at least win participation trophies against elite teams to make look entertaining. You can’t move on on from Jones( the right move). Then you put up 6 pts, it’s no way to send a message to your fanbase that things have changed. You chased off Wink Martindale, to hire a lame duck d coordinator. It’s on Daboll and Schoen now 100 percent. In year 4 with no Jones or Saquon this is the first actual year of a true rebuild. Is this the 20 year year rebuilding plan, you draft a stud player in the top 5 and hope they all age like fine wine lol. [/QUOTE]