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Message: [QUOTE="RedStickHusky, post: 1976036, member: 663"] I've been fighting myself to resist commenting on the hubris displayed in this thread but, some things just need to be said. First of all, Geno does what Geno does. He's been doing it for a long time and he's quite good at it. There is overwhelming evidence to suggest that the athletes that commit themselves to Geno's program do so with full awareness and, in fact, every expectation, that they are going to be pushed past what they thought their limits were. Anybody that's not a player, a parent, or a coach in this program who is granted some visibility on what goes on inside the program can either take the lessons offered or move on -- it's not like the program needs your criticism. To say that the coach is over the top simply defies credibility, anyone with that opinion does not understand competitive sports or high-level athletes. You can't enjoy the results and disparage the methods, the two are inter-twined. [/QUOTE]