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Message: [QUOTE="Buzzyboy, post: 5045128, member: 1364"] Thurman Munson who should have been nominated for the Baseball Hall Of Fame but he died in a plane crash. He was well into his career and had numbers essentially similarly to Carlton Fisk ... He was in his 11th season when he died and had won Rookie of the Year, MVP, multiple Golden Glove awards as well as Sporting News Player of the Year and he doesn't even get a sniff of the Hall of Fame ... Another Yankee who had a great career was Don Mattingly whose lifetime statistics are quite similar to Kirby Puckett and both their careers ended due to health issues ... Puckett lost vision in one eye while Mattingly's back issues precipitated his premature retirement ... he won multiple Golden Glove awards, was the 1985 MVP along with Sporting News Player of the Year, multiple Silver Slugger awards, the Lou Gehrig Memorial Award and this year Todd Helton is going into the Hall of Fame with virtually the same statistics with one less All Star appearance, 6 less Golden Gloves, one more Silver Slugger and he didn't win an MVP like Mattingly ... his lifetime average is slightly better at .316 to Mattingly's .307, with 43 doubles compared to Mattingly's 40, 7 more home runs per year and 1 more RBI a year ... the stats are almost identical and yet Mattingly never got a sniff despite being a better defensive player who might have saved more games, just with his glove ... Sad about the media bias towards most Yankee ballplayers [/QUOTE]

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