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Really great read. Luke Fickell said no one in the G5 will ever be able to do what Cincinnati did a few years ago, because UC could never have afforded the roster they put together then as a G5 school today if they were still a G5 school today.

 
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Really great read. Luke Fickell said no one in the G5 will ever be able to do what Cincinnati did a few years ago, because UC could never have afforded the roster they put together then as a G5 school today if they were still a G5 school today.

This is horse manure. The main change I would make is reseed for the 2nd round. The conference champs should have a chance for a bye since they play an extra game. Boise State deserved to make the CFP. I am rooting for Boise State tonight.
 

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The G5 would be better off splitting off and running their own 8 team playoff. The existence of the P4 actually gives the G5 a lot more flexibility to set rules for their own players if it split off, because it would be a really high hill to climb legally to prove the G5 had any kind of monopolistic power in the market. So if it wanted to set a salary cap or minimum commitments on contracts, it would be a lot easier to do so separately than to copy whatever the P4 does.

The G5 could simply keep the checks they are getting from the CFP, and run their own playoff that was completely separate. What could the P4 do? Those checks are effectively kickbacks to the G5 so the G5 doesn't file an anti-trust case against the P4 that the P4 would be guaranteed to lose. Also, by putting a layer between the P4 and FCS, the G5 would also increase the value of their guarantee games.

What is the downside to the G5? NIL kind of leveled the playing field, but with revenue sharing and 105 scholarships, no G5 school is ever going to win a national championship. They are better off right-sizing their own football goals or there could be a major financial disaster at some of these schools.

FWIW, we may never have another ACC or Big 12 national champion either. Businesses survive when they accept their competitive reality and adjust accordingly. This is what the G5 needs to do.
 

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For some reason, they left UConn off this list -


UConn has a football team, I thought they dropped the program!? ;)

Fortunately several comments to the video mentioned UConn, although one person thought we got dropped from the AAC... ignorance is bliss.

The vid creator also didn't include Oregon State and Washington State, so take it for what it's worth: a bad job at trying to say "hey, watch me, I'm important".:cool:
 
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Even better they picked up USF who joined the Big East in football after UConn had already been added (and represented the conference in a winning bowl effort). UConn finished with the same or better conference record than USF 6 of the 8 years the teams were in the Big East together (from 2007-2012) and won two conference titles to USF’s 0.

I’d assume the video was put together by a fan of one of the three teams who chose to focus on AAC teams in that situation (perhaps Rice who was dropped prior to the Power conference structure existing and whom they want to equate as getting as bad a break as their conference brethren).
 
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They need to put together some kind of contract agreement like 3 years for x amount of NIL dollars etc. to put some kind of stability into the whole thing. There is zero chance G5 schools can keep up with every player are available every year like in free agency. No one wants to watch blowouts after blowouts going forward, so they need a college football commissioner who can set some basic ground rules.

If every year is a free agency with no contract in place in baseball, every good player will be playing for the Yankees and Dodgers. They have to put in some kind of structure to allow schools to keep some of its players or it will be impossible to build a program in the future unless you get lucky in the transfer portal.

Also, I do agree they should do a G5 playoff if they want more exposure and TV time for G5 schools. People like to watch tournament style games vs meaningless minor bowls. Many players still want more playing time and TV exposure for their future possible NFL careers.
 
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Fortunately several comments to the video mentioned UConn, although one person thought we got dropped from the AAC... ignorance is bliss.
That comment had me fuming lol. UConn got dropped from the AAC? That's hilarious
 
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They need to put together some kind of contract agreement like 3 years for x amount of NIL dollars etc. to put some kind of stability into the whole thing. There is zero chance G5 schools can keep up with every player of available every year in free agency. No one wants to watch blowouts after blowouts going forward, so they need a college football commissioner who can set some basic ground rules.

If every year is a free agency with no contract in place in baseball, every good player will be playing for the Yankees and Dodgers. They have to put in some kind of structure to allow schools to keep some of its players or it will be impossible to build a program in the future unless you get lucky in the transfer portal.

Also, I do agree they should do a G5 playoff if they want more exposure and TV time for G5 schools. People like to watch tournament style games vs meaningless minor bowls. Many players still want more playing time and TV exposure for their future possible NFL careers.
They should just fold the minor bowls into the CFP. Presumably the pecking order of the teams in the bowls represent the top 40 or 50 teams in CFB anyway. If you do that then the CFP starts to look a lot like March Madness. Since there aren't enough bowls for all the rounds of games, just make the first round a home game for the higher seed like the CFP did this year, and then just use the bowl system to play the rest of the tournament bracket with the remaining two dozen or so teams.
 
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UConn has a football team, I thought they dropped the program!? ;)

Fortunately several comments to the video mentioned UConn, although one person thought we got dropped from the AAC... ignorance is bliss.

The vid creator also didn't include Oregon State and Washington State, so take it for what it's worth: a bad job at trying to say "hey, watch me, I'm important".:cool:

He mentioned Oregon State and Washington State in the video and asked if they would have the same fate as the three in the video, so I assumed that's why he didn't talk about them.
 
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I always consider the source and this young man is a K-State fan. He did make a separate video just for UConn so perhaps his perception is that UConn is in a better situation than the AAC programs, and I'd concur.



Needs an update.
 

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I always consider the source and this young man is a K-State fan. He did make a separate video just for UConn so perhaps his perception is that UConn is in a better situation than the AAC programs, and I'd concur.


Some of the jabronis left comments on that video against UConn, and one putz mentioned UConn's overall losing record as a solid reason why they don't belong in the Big12. Okay, I'll play, if UConn doesn't belong in the Big12, then neither do these football "stalwarts" with losing records:

Kansas State, 0.454
Iowa State, 0.454
Kansas, 0.456

Newcomers Arizona State and Utah are 1st and 2nd at 0.609 and 0.595, respectively, while West Virginia is 3rd at 0.593. Seems to me that UConn being just over 0.4 isn't the issue, unless these fans don't know anything about a bell curve...UConn is well within a standard deviation of the mean. I wonder if those commentators bother doing any research or even understand basic math before spouting off.
 
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Some of the jabronis left comments on that video against UConn, and one putz mentioned UConn's overall losing record as a solid reason why they don't belong in the Big12. Okay, I'll play, if UConn doesn't belong in the Big12, then neither do these football "stalwarts" with losing records:

Kansas State, 0.454
Iowa State, 0.454
Kansas, 0.456

Newcomers Arizona State and Utah are 1st and 2nd at 0.609 and 0.595, respectively, while West Virginia is 3rd at 0.593. Seems to me that UConn being just over 0.4 isn't the issue, unless these fans don't know anything about a bell curve...UConn is well within a standard deviation of the mean. I wonder if those commentators bother doing any research or even understand basic math before spouting off.

The current Big 12 is like the old Big East after VT and Miami left. All the Elvis Presleys are gone and all that is left are the backup singers.

The ACC is hilarious because the added Miami and VT shortly after those programs were at their apogee and they just been diminishing ever since.

Miami used to run college football. VT was a giant with Michael Vick and afterwards. Their stolen Elvises have become back up singers. Honestly, VT is a total nothing burger now.
 

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The ACC is hilarious because the added Miami and VT shortly after those programs were at their apogee and they just been diminishing ever since.

Miami used to run college football. VT was a giant with Michael Vick and afterwards. Their stolen Elvises have become back up singers. Honestly, VT is a total nothing burger now.
And VT got whipped last night by that bastion of football greatness, Minnesota. Flugaur must be ecstatic for his beloved gophers. With VT's loss, the acc went 2-11 in bowls this season, bwahahahaha!!! Only the PAC2 has a worse bowl record this year. Poor little acc, sucking so bad it makes me feel like this...
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The current Big 12 is like the old Big East after VT and Miami left. All the Elvis Presleys are gone and all that is left are the backup singers.

The ACC is hilarious because the added Miami and VT shortly after those programs were at their apogee and they just been diminishing ever since.

Miami used to run college football. VT was a giant with Michael Vick and afterwards. Their stolen Elvises have become back up singers. Honestly, VT is a total nothing burger now.
I always felt WVU was the last big-time program remaining in the BE and I know others will disagree. That's fine. If the Big East had somehow managed to stick together, then Miami, WVU, Va Tech and maybe even the lowly bcu would have had much better success in the Big East Football Conference. The ACC has been poison.
 
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And VT got whipped last night by that bastion of football greatness, Minnesota. Flugaur must be ecstatic for his beloved gophers. With VT's loss, the acc went 2-11 in bowls this season, bwahahahaha!!! Only the PAC2 has a worse bowl record this year. Poor little acc, sucking so bad it makes me feel like this...
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And 1 of those 2 wins was only by 1 point. Washington failed on a 2pt conversion vs. Louisville rather than kick the extra point and send it to OT. Syracuse won vs. Washington State who is now a G5 (now G6?) school.
 
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Some of the jabronis left comments on that video against UConn, and one putz mentioned UConn's overall losing record as a solid reason why they don't belong in the Big12. Okay, I'll play, if UConn doesn't belong in the Big12, then neither do these football "stalwarts" with losing records:

Kansas State, 0.454
Iowa State, 0.454
Kansas, 0.456

Newcomers Arizona State and Utah are 1st and 2nd at 0.609 and 0.595, respectively, while West Virginia is 3rd at 0.593. Seems to me that UConn being just over 0.4 isn't the issue, unless these fans don't know anything about a bell curve...UConn is well within a standard deviation of the mean. I wonder if those commentators bother doing any research or even understand basic math before spouting off.
You really wonder that?
 

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You really wonder that?
Actually I do, biz. It's one thing to be a passionate fan who vociferously cheers for their team and belittles the opponent, but it's another thing to be a nitwit. So I wonder if they post things out of jealously that their school hasn't won anything remotely interesting/relevant, or if they're just mindless humanoids that couldn't find their way out of a corn maze that's been withered down to the ground.
 
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Actually I do, biz. It's one thing to be a passionate fan who vociferously cheers for their team and belittles the opponent, but it's another thing to be a nitwit. So I wonder if they post things out of jealously that their school hasn't won anything remotely interesting/relevant, or if they're just mindless humanoids that couldn't find their way out of a corn maze that's been withered down to the ground.
Fair enough. Of course, they're not mutually exclusive.
 

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