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Message: [QUOTE="J187Money, post: 4206224, member: 718"] When I worked at Goldman, I played in a rec league in the city and David Viniar (who was CFO at Goldman) played with us sometimes. I think he played undergrad at Union, but at this point he was ~45-50 (this was more than 20 years ago). Point being, he shot like 80% from the elbow in competitive games while being defended. So is a 50 year old ex college player better than an average player? In my mind, I don't think so - that's exactly what I think of as an average player - someone that can play the game. Not someone like me, that would shoot 20% in a game with friends. HE wouldn't score 20 in an NBA game because after they left the old white guy open and he hit 3 or 4 they would lock him down. But he would score. And I think that is the biggest impediment. Once the "average" player got to 10, out of pride nobody would let him get a ball off without swatting it into the seats. [/QUOTE]