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Message: [QUOTE="ctchamps, post: 2059597, member: 37"] I think missing a good player at the five position has severely handicapped KO and thus my ability to assess how good of a coach KO really is. Initially it was the APR. But when he finally was able to recruit two players who I felt were good enough for me to make any determination what type of coach KO could be, one player, Juwan suffered his second ACL and the other player, Zach, had to be cut loose. So I hear you on the results of the teams and they bother me as much as I believe they bother you, but I wish these circumstance hadn't happened so that I could make what I consider a proper evaluation of KO, his ability to develop players and his ability to coach games with decent players. [/QUOTE]