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Message: [QUOTE="Towney007, post: 2075149, member: 5832"] Tens is kind of getting at what I'm getting at. I don't think you can really debate that sure - extenuating circumstances have made things a little more challenging - but let's also not skirt the fact that this program has spat out three massively underperforming teams that have all been preseason top 25 teams and haven't performed anywhere near that. While I'm not wild about the conference, there's little doubt the school's been able to attract top tier high school talent - but they haven't done much in the way of developing it and let's face it: nabbing nice recruiting classes is not only necessary, but a reflection of the work of the coaching staff. The flip side of that is that it's only part of the battle and the development hasn't really been there as a complete whole. The size and the athleticism of these teams compared even to say.. 2009 and others - isn't there. I'm all for giving Ollie a chance with this class. Goes without saying. But we're at a point where we need to start seeing real, significant results and truth be told - we're not seeing it. I THINK he can do it because i've seen him do it before, but with this crop of players, it hasn't happened. So I dunno - I guess i'm taking a moderate stance. The circumstances around the team absolutely need to be taken into consideration, but Ollie also needs to start feeling it a bit because the results haven't been here. If we don't see progress next year, he's in the hot seat. There's no getting around it. [/QUOTE]

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