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Message: [QUOTE="hoophuskee, post: 2477581, member: 3535"] I think your expectations are extreme. First off DT at 34 years old in 2016 and 35 in 2017 is no longer the best player on the planet. Secondly, Griner is not "the most dominating post of all time." She isn't physical enough to be considered that yet. Her rebound numbers imo show that. Third, while you say basketball team is more than 2 players-- yet in 2017 you seem to want to disregard that and not address what Phoenix lost in 2016. Losing to Minny and LA -- how can you say it is underachieving when they have overall MORE superior players? And again- I said 2016 they under-achieved. You were the one that said after 2014-- so I mentioned you shouldn't have counted 2015, right? SO I'll ask -- how many people you think would have projected Phoenix to beat out LA or Minny the last two years? In 2016-- maybe. Which is why I acknowledge ONE YEAR they under-achieved after 2014. But 2017? IMO you are out of your mind if you expected anything better other than them losing to Minny or LA. AGAIN I'll mention they lost Taylor, Bonner and DuPree. That is 60% of their starting lineup. How can you then say that you know that basketball is a team of more than 2 players yet so casually dismiss these 3? They wound up being one of 4 teams left in the WNBA playoffs. ***Also-- do you realize that Phoenix was among the top 4 teams left in the WNBA Playoffs the past 2 years? Because I see that you are mentioning "Conferenne Semi-finals." Now matter how you slice it-- it is the semi-finals which Phoenix has gotten to. Or are you thinking they were in the Quarter Finals and lost? In 2016 after they lost to Minny - Minny was playing for the championship against LA. And this year when they lost to LA- LA in the next round was playing for the championship against Minny. So Phoenix wound up in the at the end of the playoffs the last 2 years among the top 4 teams in basketball losing in the semi-finals. [/QUOTE]

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