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Message: [QUOTE="nwhoopfan, post: 2477566, member: 7894"] My bad, I stand corrected on Chicago and Delle Donne. Griner's first year w/ Phoenix was 2013. Their records have been: 2013 19-15 postseason lost in conference finals 2014 29-5 WNBA Champions 2015 20-14 lost in conference finals (no DT) 2016 16-18 lost in conference semifinals 2017 18-16 lost in conference semifinals DT and Griner have played 4 seasons together. 2014 was great, DT skipped '15, '16 and '17 are nothing to get excited about. They have clearly fallen way behind Minnesota and LA in the West. You have the best player of all time and potentially the most dominating post of all time. I know a basketball team is more than 2 players, but when you have 2 components like that to build a team around I would expect more. How can you call '16 and '17 anything other than underachieving? [/QUOTE]