telep- Kids like Kevin Ollie. They would like him more if UConn would remove the handcuffs and allow

[husky99]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DaveTelep/status/267052026452660224

Kids like Kevin Ollie. They would like him more if UConn would remove the handcuffs and allow him to work on a level playing field.

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interesting quote, this kind of backs up what i have heard about uconn making very very hard to recruit...

 

[CAHUSKY]

The national conversation about the "handcuffs" on Ollie must be putting a ton of pressure on Warde to offer an extension. Will be interesting to see what he does. Ive always been in the, "7 month contract was necessary so we were free to do a national search next year camp" but im slowly being swayed to the other side. Come and join me Warde!

 

[husky99]

The national conversation about the "handcuffs" on Ollie must be putting a ton of pressure on Warde to offer an extension. Will be interesting to see what he does. Ive always been in the, "7 month contract was necessary so we were free to do a national search next year camp" but im slowly being swayed to the other side. Come and join me Warde!

I was in the same boat, but last night was a huge step toward the ollie camp

 

[ctchamps]

I was in the same boat, but last night was a huge step toward the ollie camp

Don't take this the wrong way but I hope your boat sinks very quickly. I'll be very happy to bring you aboard the Boatright.

 

[Calhoun's Court]

Time for PHWM(Pumpkin Head Warde Manuel) to step up to the plate and extend KO. He is going to create a lot more ill will with fans/donors stringing along KO and letting HCPP get a free ride.

PHWM is being a hard arse with one of our own(KO) while giving HCPP a loooong rope.

 

[husky99]

Don't take this the wrong way but I hope your boat sinks very quickly. I'll be very happy to bring you aboard the Boatright.

 

[UConnSwag11]

i think kids are waiting for them to offer an extension so they can commit... bc they all love him and hes a beast recruiter

 

[8893]

Ive always been in the, "7 month contract was necessary so we were free to do a national search next year camp" but im slowly being swayed to the other side. Come and join me Warde!

One down, a few dozen more to go.

Including one very large man with a very large melon.

 

[mets1090]

Well KO led them to a victory over Michigan State. He had his kids more prepared then Tom frickin' Izzo did last night. If they march through the OOC schedule with no serious hiccups, I will be hopeful to see a contract extension worked. Obviously they won't give a guy a 7 month contract and extend it after one game but a solid 2 months of basketball might be enough.

 

[husky99]

Well KO led them to a victory over Michigan State. He had his kids more prepared then Tom frickin' Izzo did last night. If they march through the OOC schedule with no serious hiccups, I will be hopeful to see a contract extension worked. Obviously they won't give a guy a 7 month contract and extend it after one game but a solid 2 months of basketball might be enough.

Ncst will be a challenge, msg helps

 

[UCweCONN]

The national conversation about the "handcuffs" on Ollie must be putting a ton of pressure on Warde to offer an extension. Will be interesting to see what he does. Ive always been in the, "7 month contract was necessary so we were free to do a national search next year camp" but im slowly being swayed to the other side. Come and join me Warde!

I was an outspoken Shaka Smart supporter, but after seeing the game and more importantly the way Ollie and the players interact, I'm now an Ollie believer.

 

[ctchamps]

I would be shocked if this were not an up and down season as much as I would be shocked if this season was a bust. So I expect some rough patches. KO believes strongly in the Lord. He doesn't claim to be the Lord and Lord knows this team has some weaknesses. G-d willing they won't be exposed too often. (Obviously KO's reference to the deity doesn't bother me).

I loved Shaka and Stevens as coaching choices. My preference for KO was the loyalty factor I believe he will have for the program. The last thing UConn needed was to have coaches come to the school, make a name for themselves and then move on to a higher bidder.

I referenced it before but it can't be stated enough. The year after UConn won its first title the team got bounced early in the NIT's. Fans barely showed up at Gampel for that game and you could tell JC was very upset with the fan support. Right after the season ended South Carolina offered JC a contract that would have increased his salary by close to $2 mil from what UConn was giving him. I think he would have made as much as anyone in coaching. But he turned it down. He turned it down because he felt a loyalty to the University even as his fans abandoned him that season.

I place a strong value in loyalty. I would have understood if JC chose the monies. I never resented recruits going to the NBA over UConn or UConn players declaring early. Their first responsibility is to themselves. But in this day and age where so many people jump ship for money it was refreshing to see someone factor in something more than himself. My hope is that Ollie has the same success as JC and is with UConn for a similar duration. And after him I hope......... well I might be watching from a different place by then. But I'll still be rooting for UConn.

 

[Chief00]

Warde is beginning to be a laughingstock of College sports. I for one think that UC will win at best 13 to 17 games .......however I think Ollie has what it takes. We are now down the path of losing another year in recruiting - this time it is self not the NCAA inflicted. Warde can't get out of the way of his own ego.
As for Jamal Coombs-McDaniel - without his in traffic rebound and heady timeout we lose the Pitt game @ the Big East Tournament....we would have been seeded lower, etc. Obviously he made a mistake regarding some weed. I think he could have helped us this season and also last year. I hope he gets past that issue.

 

[ctchamps]

Warde is beginning to be a laughingstock of College sports. I for one think that UC will win at best 13 to 17 games .......however I think Ollie has what it takes. We are now down the path of losing another year in recruiting - this time it is self not the NCAA inflicted. Warde can't get out of the way of his own ego.
As for Jamal Coombs-McDaniel - without his in traffic rebound and heady timeout we lose the Pitt game @ the Big East Tournament....we would have been seeded lower, etc. Obviously he made a mistake regarding some weed. I think he could have helped us this season and also last year. I hope he gets past that issue.

I don't bear a resentment to Jamal Coombs-McDaniel. I hate double standards and I'm taking you to task on your double standard.

Jamal Coombs-McDaniel had the great play in the Pitt game, but who is to say some other player couldn't have contributed in a like manner if Jamal Coombs-McDaniel weren't playing that game. He got an opportunity and made the best of it, but that doesn't mean someone else couldn't have done the same or more if they were in that position.

My reproach was directed at you and your tirade against Jerome, and is not directed at Jamal Coombs-McDaniel. There were a lot of things JD did in the championship season before he went down with the ACL injury that contributed to UConn's success that season. But you chose to focus in on the negative aspects of the kid and refused to give him credit for those contributions. Whereas you lauded Jamal Coombs-McDaniel for two seasons. Fine.

JD never bad mouthed a hall of fame coach. Unlike Jamal Coombs-McDaniel, who ran away from the challenge to prove the coaches wrong, JD got his teeth knocked out but returned to a game. What does that say about this aspect of the character of these two individuals? Jamal Coombs-McDaniel didn't stay at UConn to help the apr (although I don't believe he hurt it. Hopefully he will get his degree at his new university). JD got his degree in a timely manner.

I don't like JD more than Jamal Coombs-McDaniel. I point out these attributes of JD as compared to Jamal Coombs-McDaniel only to offer that both players gave something to UConn and both had flaws. But neither deserved the lynching that JD got during his senior year from his fan base. And you were one of the ring leaders of that mob.

 

[dogpause]

C'mon guys, it was one game. Not saying I don't agree that Kevin should get "the job", but WM may be doing him a favor, although not intentionally.

Kevin is getting a lot of press, in a year when UConn won't get much mention. I really don't have a problem with how Manual handled this. IMO, he's somewhat like the guy that pulled Coca-Cola from the marketplace years ago. Kevin would be just another guy who replaced, The Guy, but now, he's viewed as an underdog, and as someone other people, including the press, can cheer for. Let it play for a while. The Spring signing period is months away, this will be resovled well before it begins. It's nice to have a coach that the media is supportive of.

This will all work out. I don't want another coach, I want Kevin. In part, I want thim because I don't think he'll jump ship in the future. Of course, we first have to give him the job. He'll be extended in due time.

 

[Waquoit]

Warde would have been a laughingstock if he gave away the store upfront. And Jamal Coombs-McDaniel was a cancer. There is a reason why the less PT he got the better the team played in the dance.

 

[8893]

Warde would have been a laughingstock if he gave away the store upfront.

Do you consider a two-year deal, with both a built-in buy-out and an option for a third, giving away the store upfront?

 

[Sportsman5]

If Brandon Austin chooses PC over UConn, than we know we are handcuffed big time.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If Brandon Austin chooses PC over UConn, than we know we are handcuffed big time.

You mean like the way we were handcuffed when Dunn picked them over us?

Don't we have a similar player (Samuel) already coming in along with (likely) three quality guards returning? His decision could be based on how much he wants to play from day one, not whether KO is handcuffed.

 

[ctchamps]

Warde would have been a laughingstock if he gave away the store upfront. And Jamal Coombs-McDaniel was a cancer. There is a reason why the less PT he got the better the team played in the dance.

He would have been criticized by some people if he gave the extended contract the same way he is criticized by some people for the short contract. And the criticism for the short contract isn't just coming from JC or fanatic fans such as us, but respectable people such as Bilas and Izzo.

The only criticism that matters is the one that takes into consideration the events that occur over the entire season. We were all guessing at the beginning of the season how KO would/will perform. When WM made his decision in September he had only two things to consider. First, if he gave KO a three year deal and KO was not up to the task, there would be a loss of monies if he had to be fired early. On the opposite side of the coin if he gives KO the short contract and KO proves he is an exceptional coach, WM will have impacted recruiting (an indirect impact on the universities finances) and hurt the University directly economically because the extended contract numbers may end up being higher than if he offered it right at the start. Of course this last point is somewhat mitigated by the knowledge that KO, even as loyal as we presuppose him to be, could insist on renegotiating contracts if he feels underpaid.

The pitchforks are out there for WM now. But they would have been out there if he gave KO the 3 year deal and UConn lost badly to MSU. It would just be different people holding the pitchforks. That's the nature of things regarding issues with polar opposite viewpoints.

 

[Sportsman5]

You mean like the way we were handcuffed when Dunn picked them over us?

Don't we have a similar player (Samuel) already coming in along with (likely) three quality guards returning? His decision could be based on how much he wants to play from day one, not whether KO is handcuffed.

Yes, we have been handcuffed in recruiting for the class of 2012 and 2013 because of the uncertainty of a future head coach. If Omar wasn't so loyal we would be looking at two very weak recruiting classes considering the history of the program and a national championship in 2011. From the scouting reports it appears samuel will need time to develop before he sees much playing time. that leaves 3 players for the 1 and 2 positions. Omar is a 2/3, so he will get time at the 3. Boatright is more of a 2 than a 1 and could leave after this year. When he has the ball he is looking to drive and score and as a second option pass if he can't get to the hoop. Shabazz is def a point guard, but is also effective off the ball. If austin is a true point guard like has claims he is, than there should be no problem getting back up minutes at the one, as well as minutes as a ball handling shooting guard. he wants to be a guard, but could earn minutes at the 3 in a small lineup as well. Once he is on the floor, than he can contribute in anyway he feels is best. If he wants to guard the 3 position on defense, but be a distributor on offense, than that is fine.

 

[upstater]

Warde would have been a laughingstock if he gave away the store upfront. And Jamal Coombs-McDaniel was a cancer. There is a reason why the less PT he got the better the team played in the dance.

Yeah, everyone is laughing at the Syracuse AD, SMU AD, Texas Tech AD, UNC AD, and every other school that's had coach-appointed successions. Those guys are laughing stocks. Manuel has a reputation to preserve, after all.

 

[upstater]

The pitchforks are out there for WM now. But they would have been out there if he gave KO the 3 year deal and UConn lost badly to MSU. It would just be different people holding the pitchforks. That's the nature of things regarding issues with polar opposite viewpoints.

Disagree. Plenty of schools have transitioned to coach-appointed successors without being criticized by the media. If you're referring to fans, then yeah.

 

[ctchamps]

Yeah, everyone is laughing at the Syracuse AD, SMU AD, Texas Tech AD, UNC AD, and every other school that's had coach-appointed successions. Those guys are laughing stocks. Manuel has a reputation to preserve, after all.

You forgot Izzo had MSU who was anointed by Heathcote.

 

[ctchamps]

Disagree. Plenty of schools have transitioned to coach-appointed successors without being criticized by the media. If you're referring to fans, then yeah.

Referring to fans.