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Message: [QUOTE="UcMiami, post: 2256364, member: 199"] Or truthfully about any good coach or teacher! (or boss) We tend to look at the success of a program, or the results of students achievement tests as the measure of the coach/teacher. And the future pursuit of the subject or the sport by those in the class/program as the long term reflection. But 95+ percent of players/students never pursue the sport/subject beyond HS/College and the value they derive from participation is all about 'life' lessons. Most of us reflect on our education and can pick out specific teachers who 'made a difference' to us - and most of them taught us subjects that had nothing to do with our careers. [/QUOTE]