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huskypantz said:
People are only half of the problem. The other half are industries which profit greatly from heavy drinking. What if bars (or restaurants) had 2 drink limits if you didn’t walk, take public transport or arrive in an Uber/Lyft? We want to penalize people but we enable their behavior. We tell them that it’s illegal to get in a car and drive drunk. We also allow establishments to sell the same people quantities of alcohol that get them drunk. I’m not saying the driver is not to blame but we don’t exactly put them in a position to succeed.
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That sounds like a great way to absolutely ruin society.
 
huskypantz said:
People are only half of the problem. The other half are industries which profit greatly from heavy drinking. What if bars (or restaurants) had 2 drink limits if you didn’t walk, take public transport or arrive in an Uber/Lyft? We want to penalize people but we enable their behavior. We tell them that it’s illegal to get in a car and drive drunk. We also allow establishments to sell the same people quantities of alcohol that get them drunk. I’m not saying the driver is not to blame but we don’t exactly put them in a position to succeed.
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I think people are way more than half the problem. Your proposal would put restaurants in the position of policing how each person arrived, how they plan to leave, are they the driver, how many drinks has each person in a group had etc.... They already have the burden of not serving someone that is clearly drunk and I'm not sure we should demand much more from them. I would not shift the accountability away from the individual to this extent. They have plenty of opportunity to succeed by making responsible decisions.
 
jibsey said:
You have to wonder about Andy Reid with 2 drug and alcohol abusing sons. I’m sure he’s tried everything to get him straightened out but putting him as coach with that background? since it’s multiple times Andy has to take some blame here.
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Might have something to do with a serious coaching career, he was never around to help them grow up. Choices...
 
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i was living in philly during the andy reed/ mcnabb era. his two sons have been in and out of rehab and had dui’s throughout. this isn’t new. unfortunately one son died of an overdose. i’m not even sure they are qualified to be part of pro football management. way bigger problem here.
 
huskypantz said:
Sorry I don’t think alcohol makes the world go round. And that’s coming from a guy who enjoys his beer.
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personal responsibility and holding people accountable could go a long way to making the world go round. i'm not feeling the server-policed two-drink limit thing.
 
huskypantz said:
Sorry I don’t think alcohol makes the world go round. And that’s coming from a guy who enjoys his beer.
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Gov't is already too big a part of our lives. Do you know what that would do to businesses if they were forced to police a 2 drink minimum at every single restaurant, bar, event etc. in the country?

It has nothing to do with thinking alcohol makes the world go round.
 
superjohn said:
Gov't is already too big a part of our lives. Do you know what that would do to businesses if they were forced to police a 2 drink minimum at every single restaurant, bar, event etc. in the country?

It has nothing to do with thinking alcohol makes the world go round.
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Well a two drink minimum would probably increase profits quite a bit, I’m sure they’d find a way to enforce it.
 
huskypantz said:
People are only half of the problem. The other half are industries which profit greatly from heavy drinking. What if bars (or restaurants) had 2 drink limits if you didn’t walk, take public transport or arrive in an Uber/Lyft? We want to penalize people but we enable their behavior. We tell them that it’s illegal to get in a car and drive drunk. We also allow establishments to sell the same people quantities of alcohol that get them drunk. I’m not saying the driver is not to blame but we don’t exactly put them in a position to succeed.
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why don’t people take responsibility for their own action? in your world the actor responsible is a footnote in the last sentence as also responsible. Put The blame where it belongs. On the person drinking.
 
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huskypantz said:
Sorry I don’t think alcohol makes the world go round. And that’s coming from a guy who enjoys his beer.
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Why stop there? Should we get rid of everything in the world that could theoretically cause harm to people when used incorrectly? No more sharp objects, hot surfaces, and cars?

Nope. The responsibility ultimately lies with the person.

And there are in fact laws where establishments can be fined/shut down if they knowingly overserve someone who drove or is clearly intoxicated.

Just stop.
 
huskypantz said:
Well a two drink minimum would probably increase profits quite a bit, I’m sure they’d find a way to enforce it.
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We should probably go back to prohibition, get rid of pharmaceuticals, weed, and teenage drivers while we're at it.

Two drink maximum.
 
Kind of reminds me of the T shirt that Lurch was wearing in Happy Gilmore. Think it said something like:

Guns don't kill people.
I do.
 
huskypantz said:
Sorry I don’t think alcohol makes the world go round. And that’s coming from a guy who enjoys his beer.
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We tried prohibition. Organized crime effectively took over most American cities. But hey, let's do it again because maybe this time it will be different. Call it Prohibition-Lite.
 
Drunk driving would be pretty easy to reduce. Just have breathalyzers available as you leave the bar. It would protect the bar and protect the patrons. Some other countries have them in bar districts. America does not because we have a society built on encouraging and then criminalizing behavior that is fairly easily avoidable.

Many towns have no overnight parking in their downtown public lots. Why on earth would a town do that? They are literally telling intoxicated drivers that they MUST drive their cars.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
We tried prohibition. Organized crime effectively took over most American cities. But hey, let's do it again because maybe this time it will be different. Call it Prohibition-Lite.
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Silly hyperbole and sensationalization, but par for the course from you.
 
UConnDad said:
Some day we’ll have self driving cars.
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They're okay but not ready for prime time in many scenarios. Great for highway driving and parking. Not yet great for city driving. They also prompt you to maintain both hands on the wheel and still pay attention. But in my initial drive with a friend in his Tesla, drunk driving assistance was the first thing I thought of.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Why stop there? Should we get rid of everything in the world that could theoretically cause harm to people when used incorrectly? No more sharp objects, hot surfaces, and cars?

Nope. The responsibility ultimately lies with the person.

And there are in fact laws where establishments can be fined/shut down if they knowingly overserve someone who drove or is clearly intoxicated.

Just stop.
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It is insane that people freak out about the thought of a three drink maximum and segue into prohibition. The "Why stop there" argument - which is basically the segue to "why enact any more laws because subsequent laws will only be more restrictive".
 
87Xfer said:
just silly. besides, a lot of people would just have 2 drinks each at 3 different places.
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It's like when states had different drinking ages...all did was encourage kids to drive to another nearby state to drink...and then drive home
 
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I don't want to judge on face value - because there are three other Reid children. But, it just makes me wonder if it's worth it as a father...being consumed by a job - away from home all the time.
 
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