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Message: [QUOTE="BBallF, post: 3986089, member: 10435"] Sure, Stockton was a great player but we are talking about the greatest. He wasn't. No way he is ahead of Magic. Basketball is a lot different from baseball or football in terms of one player having his or her greatness lead to a title and it depends on the position. In baseball, a fielder and hitter can be very influential but a pitcher with a Gibson/Koufax kind of a year can bring home a title. In football, it can be a quarterback like a Brady or a great running back like a Jim Brown but there are so many more players on the team that have to perform at a high level. In basketball, it is 1 of 5 and that 1 can dominate a game. Take the Maya game against Stanford or DT's last 2 title runs. It is true that you still need a team to do it but if you can't bring your team to the finish line, how great were you? In the end, Paige will be judged by titles and rings in my mind. When you think about the Mt. Rushmore at UCONN you think about players who won championships. There is nobody up there or on the next mountain who did not. [/QUOTE]