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Outside of the obvious having to replace Brown and White...I can't see P making any other staff changes except maybe shuffling responsibilities...if even that. Only other staff change I can see coming is Day leaving for a NFL job. The ONLY good thing about this...12 more games with this group! This time next season we will have an entire new coaching staff with ZERO holdovers from either Pasqualoni OR Edsall's staff! There is light at the end of the tunnel!
 
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That's horrible news.... because if we already know we're up *'s creek with this current staff and have no choice but to grin and bare it for another season, why not make the changes NOW... There are plenty of coaches available ( NFL level guys to boot ). I'm a fulltime member on the rivals site and got wind that most guys that see the openings we currently have on our staff are very weery about taking a gig here because of the uncertainty of Coach P as coach past next season. NOT good.
 

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The upcoming season is going to require a few small miracles (and perhaps a large one or two) to avoid being the worst we've seen since the upgrade. Part of me thinks that P is planning on taking over the D in order to demonstrate to potenial future suitors that he can still be a defensive coordinator. Most of me realizes that whoever we bring in will be little more than a sacrificial lamb as I agree with FDNY that we will be cleaning house next December.

I'm still hoping (although I cannot believe he is that stupid) that Addazio was being sincere in his praise of GDL before we played Temple and once GDL is free from UConn, he becomes BCU's offensive coordinator.
 

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After the Ollie debacle, this is mistake #2 for Warde. He should have asked himself, "What realistic expectations for this season would warrant keeping the current staff?" I can't think of one. A bowl game? 9-3? Shared BE Champ? How realistic is that?

The only rational explanation is that due to the CR situation, Warde couldn't attract the coach he wants and hopes that after this year that will be resolved and that it wasn't worth a complete turnover of the staff.

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I'm guessing that WM sees next season as a lost year regardless and feels that it would be better for P's replacement to begin after that season, not before, as fans would be calling for his head during year two as they would have viewed the disaster of 2013 as his fault.
 
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I'm guessing that WM sees next season as a lost year regardless and feels that it would be better for P's replacement to begin after that season, not before, as fans would be calling for his head during year two as they would have viewed the disaster of 2013 as his fault.



Why? What would make the following year better? At least next year we have a good schedule. I'd like to have an exciting new coach to go along with a great schedule to try and ignite a fire under this program next year.
 
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Hypothetically:

Scenario A) A new coach comes in for 2013 and goes 3-9. In 2014, because we are still building something, we start off slowly, at that point all excitement of the new hire will be drained. The fans will act very similar to how they acted this past season and before he had a chance to do much at all, all goodwill that comes from a new hire will be out the window.

Scenario B) A new coach comes in folowing a 3-9 2013 season. In 2014, because we are building something, we start off slowly. As we still have the excitement of the new hire, our fans will show sufficient patience to give the coach the opportunity to build something over the next year or so before turning on him.

Which would be a better environment for a bright, young coach to succeed in?
 
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There is only one valid reason for Warde to keep P in 2013 and that reason would be that he thinks P is a good coach who can be successful here.

If Warde is keeping P in 2013 because Warde views 2013 as a lost cause and he would prefer to give his hand picked coach a clean start in 2014 then Warde should be canned ASAP.
 
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I know KO's situation comes up on this board a lot. I will state my side on that and move back to the topic I started. If Calhoun wanted KO to succede him SO bad he should have put him in charge last season when he went on medical keave instead of Blaney! WM should have also named KO interim head coach when Calhoun retired at such a late date. 2 mistakes by 2 different people that lead to a show. WM stood by his word about evaluating KO and giving him a long term contract if he thought the body of work deserved it. I know a lot of people on here slam WM...but he in a short period of time has had to do the following: try to right the men's hoops APR issues, hire a senior athletic staff, raise funds for a hoops practice facility, evaluate a men's hoops coach, start to gather a list of football coach candidates..and deal with conference realignment...all things the man he replaced SUCKED at! I won't truely judge Manuel until he 1) Replaces football staff 1A) I see where we end up. I can say that people who know him personally who I have had the chance to speak at length to (and who have ZERO ties to UConn athletics) say he is VERY confident when realignmemt is over we will be in VERY good shape...and that stadium expansion is ready to go...only needs funding (this I corroborated through a friend of mine who runs construction projects for the CT Dept of Public Works..expansion project for 30,000 seats is on file)
Now on to the OP...Foley, Hughes and Day are the ONLY guys I would like to see back from this staff. But at this point WM needs to blow it up and allow his guy to hire his own staff. With the savings in Calhoun's contract compared to what KO is gonna make WM can keep a similiar bottom line salary wise and up the football staff money. I think Day will end up back in the NFL...especially if one of the 8 new hc's hires Mike Martz as his OC. Now that it is January 2013 I figure we have just about 11-12 months left of these asshats! WM will make this move pretty early so that he can get in the game for guys like Diaco, Narduzzi, and Morris.
 

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I like FDNY's take here... though my fear is our conference situation isn't settled in 12 months. But I guess even if we're in a CUSA type situation for the forseeable future going forward WM could bring in a younger type HC to do what Hawkins / Peterson did for Boise - improve recruiting , win the **y conference, win OOC games and bowl games and position the program to be talked about as not just up and coming but as inevitable to be picked up by the B1G or BXII or ACC.
 
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Hypothetically:

Scenario A) A new coach comes in for 2013 and goes 3-9. In 2014, because we are still building something, we start off slowly, at that point all excitement of the new hire will be drained. The fans will act very similar to how they acted this past season and before he had a chance to do much at all, all goodwill that comes from a new hire will be out the window.

Scenario B) A new coach comes in folowing a 3-9 2013 season. In 2014, because we are building something, we start off slowly. As we still have the excitement of the new hire, our fans will show sufficient patience to give the coach the opportunity to build something over the next year or so before turning on him.

Which would be a better environment for a bright, young coach to succeed in?



Don't you think the fan base will be able to appreciate a coach that has competence and creativity? If we get better during the season, we'll all give the new coach a long rope. We just can't afford to burn a year right now.
 
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We just can't afford to burn a year right now.

totally agree... It makes zero sense for us to take a step or two back ( and play Conference USA ball ) to take steps forward down the road... You'd have to wonder why the heck did we start this process 12 years ago to begin with...
 

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totally agree... It makes zero sense for us to take a step or two back ( and play Conference USA ball ) to take steps forward down the road... You'd have to wonder why the heck did we start this process 12 years ago to begin with...
Just have to re-evaluate the timeframe. It's definitely not what we signed up for, but at this point, if we can have a reasonable athletics budget (supplemented by exit fees), maintain our SNY deal, and somehow have a solid OOC schedule, then spending ~5 years in the hybrid CUSA or whatever UConn/USF/Temple/Cincy/Memphis/UCF/Tulane/ECU will be called, with the hope goal of getting invited to a "power five" is the only option left to us. Other than getting an invite, what other option is there?
 
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It's obvious what Calhoun did with his late resign call therefore boxing in WM to what Calhoun wanted. This is why not naming Ollie in charge for the medical leave was really aggravating at the time as the team seemed to lose focus during that time period. We had heard rumblings that Calhoun wanted Ollie to be the next coach yet he puts Blaney in charge. Poorly done by JC. Warde isn't pushing the panic button and it will be seen in a good light when all is said and done. PP has been around a while and he should know that GDL isn't helping him. It's his move to have on his legacy this ineptitude on offense. The arguement you can't fire the HC after 2 seasons with the fact we won some games that mattered, Rutgers in 11, and Maryland and L-ville in 12, is not out of bounds. If things don't work out and a new coach wants to keep HH and Foley it would be fine by me.
 
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Hypothetically:

Scenario A) A new coach comes in for 2013 and goes 3-9. In 2014, because we are still building something, we start off slowly, at that point all excitement of the new hire will be drained. The fans will act very similar to how they acted this past season and before he had a chance to do much at all, all goodwill that comes from a new hire will be out the window.

Scenario B) A new coach comes in folowing a 3-9 2013 season. In 2014, because we are building something, we start off slowly. As we still have the excitement of the new hire, our fans will show sufficient patience to give the coach the opportunity to build something over the next year or so before turning on him.

Which would be a better environment for a bright, young coach to succeed in?

People are calling for P's head after one season going 5 - 7.....there is NO coach that can succeed here in fans eyes unless they get about 7 wins in their first year which is basically impossible
 
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People are calling for P's head after one season going 5 - 7.....there is NO coach that can succeed here in fans eyes unless they get about 7 wins in their first year which is basically impossible

It's two years of 5-7 but this goes beyond the record. It's the doubling down on DeLeone, the refusal to get rid of him, the poor game management, the weirdo philosophy of only having one RB, the weirdo philosophy of never taking a knee at the end of a game, the lack of emotion and leadership on the sideline, the inability to make positive halftime adjustments, the burning of redshirts for no apparent reason at all, and to top it off is the age factor, wrap in all up and you have a hopelessly disgruntled fan base.

P can give us hope tomorrow by clearing out GDL's desk but he is not going to do it so we ring in the new year by banging our heads against the wall.
 

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considering our schedule the past 2 years, what we had on d and what we ere trying to do on O, above .500 was completely doable both years no matter how many excuses u cna find. we didn't have 1 good team on our schedule this year. cuse or ncst was the best and they are not top 25 teams. stop making excuses. the ansonia hs football coach gets us 7 wins this year for christ sake.
 
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People are calling for P's head after one season going 5 - 7.....there is NO coach that can succeed here in fans eyes unless they get about 7 wins in their first year which is basically impossible


That's 100% BS.

P got his grace year. But year in year two he showed us nothing.

We went 5-7 and looked dreadful. There is 5-7 and showing hope, but that's not what Coach Ozymandias gave us.


The only bright spot was a defense of Edsall leftovers and a DC who everyone knew was going to leave the Pasqualoni dumpster fire if the opportunity presented itself (it did).

December 1st 2013. Book it. Pasqualoni better be cleaning out his office and he better take the Metamucil with him.

Next year's losing season is on Warde Manuel. He had the chance to pick HIS coach. But he underwrote the risk when he chose to bring Pasqualoni back.
 

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Hypothetically:

Scenario A) A new coach comes in for 2013 and goes 3-9. In 2014, because we are still building something, we start off slowly, at that point all excitement of the new hire will be drained. The fans will act very similar to how they acted this past season and before he had a chance to do much at all, all goodwill that comes from a new hire will be out the window.

Scenario B) A new coach comes in folowing a 3-9 2013 season. In 2014, because we are building something, we start off slowly. As we still have the excitement of the new hire, our fans will show sufficient patience to give the coach the opportunity to build something over the next year or so before turning on him.

Which would be a better environment for a bright, young coach to succeed in?
Here's the problem with your hypothesis - if Coach P is so godawful, wouldn't any coach off the street get us a couple more wins and a 5-7 record at least in 2013?
 

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Here's the problem with your hypothesis - if Coach P is so godawful, wouldn't any coach off the street get us a couple more wins and a 5-7 record at least in 2013?
And if he does he still would have spent his grace year. If I were in WM's shoes George would have been canned twelve weeks ago and P would already be enjoying his retirement. That said, a valid argument could be made for postponing the inevitable by one season.
 
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Conference situation will control what happens for another year or two...
 
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