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[QUOTE="hoophuskee, post: 4882951, member: 3535"]
As you point out I highlight in bold. It is a factor that can't be ignored. Which is why a guy like Bill Russell is so highly regarded. What were his other elite stats?

How does a superstar that chooses to be part of a machine team that wins titles get fairly evalauted vs a one-player machine that chose to join a team knowing he or she would rack up stats and just gambled with low chance that they can win -  if titles can't be a part of the discussion? Part of the reason they went there is that they felt team is a bit more important than their individual stats, right? So, can't take that completely away from them.  OFc the player with little chance to win due to a much lesser talented team is going to rack up more enormous stats, right?

Comes down to our preferences/biases etc.

I do have biases too. Just like I choose Russell over Wilt, I choose the past UCONN Machine teams with DT, MM, and BS as "a part of . . ." over the new era "Pistol Pete's." And in a lighter conversation on the old ESPN Boards back in the day I chose teh WCBB Maya Moore over WCBB Angel in a heartbeat.
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