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Message: [QUOTE="awfuldan, post: 4863666, member: 7605"] Oh gotcha, that makes sense. I would argue that taking advantage of promotions and bonuses is an essential piece of being an advantage gambler. It’s the low hanging fruit for sure, but it’s a way to make money. I think if you look at how a lot of winning sports bettors operate, it does look a lot like investing. Most people don’t win by making picks, they win by shopping for lines and exploiting inefficiencies in the market. Even the people that win by making picks are often using computer models and tools like that. Do you consider playing poker gambling? Because I take a similar approach to poker that I do to sports betting - I’m not going to play at a table where I don’t have an edge. I grind hard and study continuously to make sure I am better than the other players at the casino. Can I still lose if I’m the best player at the table? Yeah I can and often will. But it’s still +EV for me to play either way. [/QUOTE]