Speculation on Katie Lou: Record Breaker?

[RockyMTblue2]

Katie Lou Samuelson’s March Towards the Three-Point Record - A Dime Back

"If Samuelson matched last year exactly this coming season and again as a senior, her career total would be — wait for it — 435! That’s not even breaking the record, that’s putting the record into a blender and liquefying it. Even if her pace slows to 2.8 threes per game (Mosqueda-Lewis’s career average), Samuelson would sneak into first place near the end of her time at UConn."

Interesting that it is noted that one thing potentially standing in her way is that she is a more well rounded player and not just a 3 specialist.

Then there is this. "In addition to a wealth of capable teammates in need of shots, Samuelson will likely combat the very serious problem of not needing to play in the second half because her team is winning by approximately all the points."

 

[bags27]

Samuelson will likely combat the very serious problem of not needing to play in the second half because her team is winning by approximately all the points."

That's very funny.

I only sort of agree with this, however:
While Mosqueda-Lewis was a phenomenal player at UConn, her offensive skill set was nowhere near as diverse as Samuelson’s.

KML was a vastly underappreciated all-round player. Maybe because of her body frame folks couldn't see that she handled the ball very well, had a solid drive, and used that body very effectively to get rebounds. True, she couldn't jump very high (neither can Lou for that matter), but KML had a fantastic instinct for the ball and put herself in a position to snatch rebounds at a lower level. I'm not saying that Lou doesn't have a better future: if nothing else, her build guarantees it. And it's correct that with less playing time (and therefore sparing her body), Lou has the great potential to take the mid-range jumper or invite contact by completing the power drive; both of which she showed great potential with last year until she just wore out.

Just want to say that KML was a lot, lot more than a 3-point shooter.

 

[Huskee11]

I think she will break it, but oddly enough the two things most likely in her way are actually positives - less PT due to blowouts, and a more diverse offensive game. Would love to see her scoring inside this year in a variety of ways, improving on some of what we saw last year.

I think we will also be pleasantly surprised by the energy we see from her from the opening tap of the first game. Agree with Bags that she was running on fumes at the end of last year.

LOOOOUUUUU!!!

 

[VAMike23]

That's very funny.

I only sort of agree with this, however:
While Mosqueda-Lewis was a phenomenal player at UConn, her offensive skill set was nowhere near as diverse as Samuelson’s.

KML was a vastly underappreciated all-round player. Maybe because of her body frame folks couldn't see that she handled the ball very well, had a solid drive, and used that body very effectively to get rebounds. True, she couldn't jump very high (neither can Lou for that matter), but KML had a fantastic instinct for the ball and put herself in a position to snatch rebounds at a lower level. I'm not saying that Lou doesn't have a better future: if nothing else, her build guarantees it. And it's correct that with less playing time (and therefore sparing her body), Lou has the great potential to take the mid-range jumper or invite contact by completing the power drive; both of which she showed great potential with last year until she just wore out.

Just want to say that KML was a lot, lot more than a 3-point shooter.

I remember her performance at Baylor, her sophomore year....especially the 1st half (double/double)

 

[pacific 44]

If Mitchell at Ohio St. has an injury free year i think she is expected to own the three point career record.Maybe 450 or so.Katie Lou may only average 25 minutes per game this year and maybe not many more next year.Her 3-pointers/minute might end up as a record though.

 

[MilfordHusky]

I don’t recall Kelsey’s totals, but I think she had about 128, 125, and 115. She’s at nearly 370. I expect her to push the record to nearly 500.

If Kelsey had gone to the pros, Kaleena’s record would have been safe for a while longer. I think Lou can get to 398; I doubt she can catch Mitchell.

 

[hugefan]

That's very funny.

I only sort of agree with this, however:
While Mosqueda-Lewis was a phenomenal player at UConn, her offensive skill set was nowhere near as diverse as Samuelson’s.

KML was a vastly underappreciated all-round player. Maybe because of her body frame folks couldn't see that she handled the ball very well, had a solid drive, and used that body very effectively to get rebounds. True, she couldn't jump very high (neither can Lou for that matter), but KML had a fantastic instinct for the ball and put herself in a position to snatch rebounds at a lower level. I'm not saying that Lou doesn't have a better future: if nothing else, her build guarantees it. And it's correct that with less playing time (and therefore sparing her body), Lou has the great potential to take the mid-range jumper or invite contact by completing the power drive; both of which she showed great potential with last year until she just wore out.

Just want to say that KML was a lot, lot more than a 3-point shooter.

 

[CocoHusky]

That's very funny.

I only sort of agree with this, however:
While Mosqueda-Lewis was a phenomenal player at UConn, her offensive skill set was nowhere near as diverse as Samuelson’s.

KML was a vastly underappreciated all-round player. Maybe because of her body frame folks couldn't see that she handled the ball very well, had a solid drive, and used that body very effectively to get rebounds. True, she couldn't jump very high (neither can Lou for that matter), but KML had a fantastic instinct for the ball and put herself in a position to snatch rebounds at a lower level. I'm not saying that Lou doesn't have a better future: if nothing else, her build guarantees it. And it's correct that with less playing time (and therefore sparing her body), Lou has the great potential to take the mid-range jumper or invite contact by completing the power drive; both of which she showed great potential with last year until she just wore out.

Just want to say that KML was a lot, lot more than a 3-point shooter.

@bags27 I don't know why people are sleeping on KML. I could just as easily make the case that KML was the more versatile player. KML's post up game was strong and during her junior and senior year she had a tendency to go inside and mix things up and collect timely offensive back breaking rebounds. KML's versatility was on full display during her last 4 minutes in a UCONN uniform.

 

[SVCBeercats]

Katie Lou Samuelson’s March Towards the Three-Point Record - A Dime Back

If Tyler Wilkinson in this article is referring to KML's UCONN record, it is a done deal. If he is referring to the NCAA record, not a done deal. Ohio State's Kelsey Mitchell's current total for 3PTers made is 368. She is averaging 122.6 made 3PTers per season. If she now understands the team concept as she proclaimed at the National Team's practices she may only make 100 or so this season. Thus she would finish with approximately 468 made 3PTers. Samuelson has 194 made 3PTers according to the UCONN website. Thus Lou would need to make another 275 3 PTers to beat out Mitchell. She would need to average 137.5 made 3PTers per season. Da Gunner has it in her. She did launch 283 3PTers last season. Of course Kelsey might just lose track of the team concept and make 120+ this season.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Just to clarify, when KLS hit 119 3's last year that was within the team concept, but if Mitchell makes a similar number it's disregarding the team concept?

 

[RockyMTblue2]

That's very funny.

I only sort of agree with this, however:
While Mosqueda-Lewis was a phenomenal player at UConn, her offensive skill set was nowhere near as diverse as Samuelson’s.

KML was a vastly underappreciated all-round player. Maybe because of her body frame folks couldn't see that she handled the ball very well, had a solid drive, and used that body very effectively to get rebounds. True, she couldn't jump very high (neither can Lou for that matter), but KML had a fantastic instinct for the ball and put herself in a position to snatch rebounds at a lower level. I'm not saying that Lou doesn't have a better future: if nothing else, her build guarantees it. And it's correct that with less playing time (and therefore sparing her body), Lou has the great potential to take the mid-range jumper or invite contact by completing the power drive; both of which she showed great potential with last year until she just wore out.

Just want to say that KML was a lot, lot more than a 3-point shooter.

I totally agree; but I knew some stalwart would come forward to defend K's honor.

 

[SVCBeercats]

Just to clarify, when KLS hit 119 3's last year that was within the team concept, but if Mitchell makes a similar number it's disregarding the team concept?

Have you watched Mitchell play? She is a solo act for the most part. She is the one who proclaimed she is now embracing the team concept. What does this mean to you? Did I or did I not refer to Samuelson as "Da Gunner?" You can conclude from this that at times Lou may get an itchy trigger finger and not always within the team concept. The difference is her coach, Auriemma, reins her in quickly. At times last year he made some statements to the effect he has to play the starting five but next year if a player does not play the way he wants them to play; he will have the option to sit a player.

 

[j66kicker]

Just to clarify, when KLS hit 119 3's last year that was within the team concept, but if Mitchell makes a similar number it's disregarding the team concept?

Correct. It's taken you a while to catch on, but you're starting to get it....

 

[nwhoopfan]

I've seen very little of Mitchell playing during her career. I was just making a point that number of 3 pt FG's made isn't an indicator or whether someone is a team player or not.

Asia Durr from Louisville also hit 119 last year, another player I barely saw play. Plum hit 115. Some on this board considered her a ball hog and a gunner. Having watched her extensively last year I have a different opinion.

 

[chrissaran]

Kelsey Mitchell believes there is no bad shot.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Plum hit 115. Some on this board considered her a ball hog and a gunner. Having watched her extensively last year I have a different opinion.

Early in the WNBA season Plum explained some of her transition difficulty by stating her team mates at Washington had 1 assignment: get her the ball. It was her job to chuck it. Thisby way of explanation by her of how therole of a PG, looking to find open team mates, was sorta new to her.

 

[MilfordHusky]

My prediction is that Lou will be the best shooting AND rebounding Samuelson in WCBB this season.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Early in the WNBA season Plum explained some of her transition difficulty by stating her team mates at Washington had 1 assignment: get her the ball. It was her job to chuck it. Thisby way of explanation by her of how therole of a PG, looking to find open team mates, was sorta new to her.

That's vastly oversimplified. Plum averaged 5 apg (and over 500 for her career) and would have had more if she had more talent around her. Her teammates weren't consistent hitting shots from the perimeter or finishing in the lane. You can only get an assist if your teammate can hit a shot. If you watched UW play last year it was very apparent that she made an effort to get her teammates involved, especially early in games. At some point she usually needed to take over. UW played up tempo and pretty much everyone that was on the floor was encouraged to launch a 3 if they got an open look. UW led the Pac 12 in 3 point FG attempts and makes, by a WIDE margin. That wasn't just Kelsey chucking from behind the arc. That was clearly a team offensive philosophy put in place by the coaching staff.

Plum is obviously the career scoring leader at UW. #2 on the list is Jazmine Davis, who was Plum's teammate for 2 years. Plum's teammate for 3 years, Talia Walton, is #5 on the list. So obviously Plum wasn't preventing other players from scoring if she played half of her career w/ the #2 scorer and 3/4 of her career w/ the #5 scorer in school history.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

That's vastly oversimplified.

Admittedly Kelsey oversimplified it.

“In college, every single play was ran for me,” Plum said. “And I was super aggressive. I was always attacking. In this case, I’m a point guard. I’m running the offense and getting my team involved. It’s just a different role.

“In college, I could just put my head down and go get fouled. In the pros, there are four other players that are really good with you and you got to make sure everyone is on the same page.”

Storm head to San Antonio, where Kelsey Plum has struggled to adjust to WNBA play

 

[nwhoopfan]

Okay, Kelsey's own words. I don't think she is giving herself enough credit for her play making in college. Not to mention Osahor directed the offense from the high post fairly often during their Sr. year, so it wasn't all Kelsey all the time. And again the #2 and #5 scorers in school history played alongside her so somehow someone else was getting plenty of shots.

The 3 point shooting I mentioned before is kind of startling. The Huskies had more than 200 more attempts and more than 100 more made 3's than anyone else in the Pac 12 last season.

 

[hugefan]

Have you watched Mitchell play? She is a solo act for the most part. She is the one who proclaimed she is now embracing the team concept. What does this mean to you? Did I or did I not refer to Samuelson as "Da Gunner?" You can conclude from this that at times Lou may get an itchy trigger finger and not always within the team concept. The difference is her coach, Auriemma, reins her in quickly. At times last year he made some statements to the effect he has to play the starting five but next year if a player does not play the way he wants them to play; he will have the option to sit a player.

Perpetuating a myth, KLS always has the green light.

 

[SVCBeercats]

Perpetuating a myth, KLS always has the green light.

In the flow of the offense she has a green light. You don't see her dribbling all over the place looking to force up a shot while her teammates stand around watching. In the flow of the offense she has a green light. She doesn't always have the best shot selection but I suspect since this year Geno has several options from the bench she will have really good shot selection this year.You don't see her dribbling all over the place looking to force up a shot while her teammates stood around watching. Now last year I saw a bit of Mitchell in Dangerfield. Too often she eschewed the UCONN passing game for the Mitchell high school street ball way of playing. I am very interested to see if Dangerfield will play in the flow of the offense this season. She did last season at times but at times too much Mitchell dribble-dribble-dribble too often for me and I think Geno.

 

[hugefan]

You are trying to perpetuate something Geno says has to do with KLS where is your proof.