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Message: [QUOTE="willtalk, post: 4452141, member: 1220"] Your rationalizations are biased as hell and I will point out two obvious places. Don't attempt to use a long envolved detailed post to hide the obvious. I'll start with the most obvious of your statements. In your fifth paragraph you state that the defender is supposed to give the offensive player with the ball room to make a move to the basket. To begin with Boston does not even get the ball until Bosten has hit Bessor and she is doubled over holding her head. It is because Bessor has been taken out that Bosten was even open to take the ball for an uncontested shot. Your statement about allowing an offensive player with the ball a lane to make a move does not apply if the offensive player move is the direction of a defenders established position. Thats why offensive fouls are called. That aside the entire physical issue between Bessor and Bosten happens with Bosten not having the ball. In respect to you take on a defender not being allowed to put their legs where it serves their best interests is also wrong. They are not allowed to put their legs where it impedes the offensive player in their ability to make a lateral movement. The defender is allowed to maintain their established position by pushing back on the offensive player who tries to move them from their established postition. Large offensive posts often use their body weight and strength to move defenders off their postitions. Bessor was just attempting to hold her original positions while Bosten was trying to move her to get closer to the basket. They were fighting for position with Bosten attempting to move it closer to the basket. A smaller player will lower their center of gravity to get more leverage and that forces the offensive player to go over the top. The offensive player is going over the top because of their actions not the defender who is not undercutting as long as they hold their original position. It all depends on the original starting point. The entire dynamic and rules that apply changes once the offensive player has the ball. However, that was not the case here. Bosten did not even get the ball until Bessor was completely out of he play holding her head feet away from Boston. I am not aware if the basket counted or if she was shooting an and one or a two shot shooting foul. The elbo to the face is is what allowed her to get the ball and have an open look. So unless they were in the penalty any shot should not have counted period. Being that any penalty either on Boston or Bessor was long before the she had the ball let alone in a shooting motion. The refs screwed this up on multiple levels. It would be like pushing someone down, then getting the ball and having the shot count. [/QUOTE]

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