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Message: [QUOTE="Paesano, post: 2508493, member: 5631"] Everyone is hung up on where we are versus expectations. The problem is, expectations vary wildly and rarely are they accurate except for those who threw out a lucky guess. And opinions of where we are today vary wildly too. What we can do is chart the team's progress. Ok, they are young. People use that as an excuse for low expectations and say they are as good as they thought they would be. Fine. It is also true that young players improve the most rapidly and especially if they are getting PT. So far, we aren't seeing any significant improvement. That, plus the past three seasons, is enough to move in another direction. [/QUOTE]