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Message: [QUOTE="Brewski, post: 4487121, member: 11578"] This is a good post [USER=1131]@JoePgh[/USER] and I agree with it. We all love data, so here's further data to support your analysis. There are many actions that can result in a turnover, including: ball stolen by opposing team, throwing a bad pass, throwing the ball out of bounds, stepping out of bounds, committing a double-dribble, palming or traveling violation, committing a back-court violation, shot clock violation, three-second violation, five-second violation or an offensive foul (charge or illegal screen). Others? As per this thread, turnovers are typically divided into Forced and Unforced turnovers. I agree with [USER=1131]@JoePgh[/USER]'s post that most of our turnovers this season are unforced; for example throwing a bad pass or traveling or a 3-second violation. These "stupid" turnovers can (and will) be reduced with better fundamentals, practice, and coaching. Consider the following table (all games to date) of all our players showing total playing time, turnovers, and average minutes played per turnover. The more minutes you play per turnover, the better you are at taking care of the ball. The table obviously shows that the more you play, the higher your turnover potential is going to be(duh!). But, experienced players that play a lot also potentially reduce their turnover rate over time because practice makes perfect. Our inexperienced players tend to have less minutes played per turnover on average. AP is a nice exception here! One thing the table does not show is how many minutes a player has the ball in their hands every game. You can't have a turnover without the ball (brilliant statement!). Nika has 41 turnovers but handles the ball much more than anybody else in a given game. Does anybody want to reduce her time with the ball? Nope. Total time with the ball in your hands would be a better indicator than total playing time for this table. I wonder if anybody is crazy enough to collect that data? CD has been playing injured, so you just have to give her a break until she heals and is 100%. I salute Dorka with her low turnover rate because she plays a lot in the paint, where turnover potential is high. Azzi has the best ball handling skills on the team. It will be interesting to see how she progresses when she returns to play, hopefully tomorrow. I leave you with a question. If a player shoots an air-ball and the opposing team gets the ball, is that considered an official turnover? Asking for a friend. [ATTACH type="full"]82672[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

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