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Message: [QUOTE="Hans Sprungfeld, post: 3411682, member: 181"] 8th man or better on either 2011 or 2014 NC teams would be neither implausible nor warrant your dismissive lol, unless that was solely to rebut the "all-time greats" term. Use of the word "lucky" is just ignorance of its meaning combined with needless puffery. Thanks, though, for prompting me to take an enjoyable look at those 3 teams. It provided a healthy perspective. I also liked that others after your post recalled Gwynn, Albie, and Austrie. CV deserves to be appreciated for what he can & does do, cheered mightily for the balance of the season, and, down the line, fondly recalled for his evident contributions. No sense in implying his imperfections, especially in this thread. [/QUOTE]