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[UC1995]

From ESPN Article about Kansas

As a freshman at St. John's, Storr's team went 18-15 and missed the NCAA tournament. Last season at Wisconsin, the Badgers went 22-14 and lost to 12-seed James Madison in the first round of the NCAA tournament.

"UConn got four guys drafted and, statistically, some of those guys' numbers weren't as good as other players out there. But they're the ones that got drafted because they won a national championship," Storr said. "Winning is the main thing I'm focused on right now. I'm going to develop, regardless. When you're winning, you're developing."

He won't develop because he is a "me" guy. Also they conveniently forgot that we were no where 100% when Kansas beat us last year.

 

[aceboon]

who doesn't get it, the writer or Storr? Storr said winning is his main focus, what is your issue with that?

 

[navery12]

I'm not convinced you read a single word of what you posted

 

[HuskyHawk]

From ESPN Article about Kansas

As a freshman at St. John's, Storr's team went 18-15 and missed the NCAA tournament. Last season at Wisconsin, the Badgers went 22-14 and lost to 12-seed James Madison in the first round of the NCAA tournament.

"UConn got four guys drafted and, statistically, some of those guys' numbers weren't as good as other players out there. But they're the ones that got drafted because they won a national championship," Storr said. "Winning is the main thing I'm focused on right now. I'm going to develop, regardless. When you're winning, you're developing."

He won't develop because he is a "me" guy. Also they conveniently forgot that we were no where 100% when Kansas beat us last year.

No reason for UConn fans to get butt hurt about this. Self said last year he looked at what Hurley had done and realized he needed depth and more interchangeable parts, not just a good starting 5 (which they did have until McCullar went down).

"Everything is interchangeable," Self said. "How do we address length? How do we address perimeter shooting? Nobody's going to beat KJ out, but if we're going to play KJ, we need to put shooters around him. ...Our house looks crowded, but after you watch us practice, it's not near as crowded as what people think."

Guys sacrificing their individual stats for the team is critical to UConn's success. This is all very complimentary to the approach UConn and Kansas are taking.

 

[HooperScooper]

I kind of understand why Kansas is #1 in the polls but I kind of don't either. I saw this in an article about the Champions Classic next week (as an aside - when are they going to replace Michigan State with UConn?).

According to the latest ESPN.com NBA mock draft, Duke features three of the Top 10 projected picks next summer in No. 1 Cooper Flagg, No. 6 Kon Knueppel and No. 8 Khaman Maluach, with Tyrese Proctor at 28.

For Kentucky, Koby Brea and Jaxson Robinson are considered NBA prospects.

Kansas and Michigan State don’t have any Top 100 prospects, per ESPN.

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I realize that experience in college matters a lot. But Kansas doesn't have a single NBA prospect? Will they be able to win it all with a roster like that?

 

[superjohn]

I kind of understand why Kansas is #1 in the polls but I kind of don't either. I saw this in an article about the Champions Classic next week (as an aside - when are they going to replace Michigan State with UConn?).

According to the latest ESPN.com NBA mock draft, Duke features three of the Top 10 projected picks next summer in No. 1 Cooper Flagg, No. 6 Kon Knueppel and No. 8 Khaman Maluach, with Tyrese Proctor at 28.

For Kentucky, Koby Brea and Jaxson Robinson are considered NBA prospects.

Kansas and Michigan State don’t have any Top 100 prospects, per ESPN.

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I realize that experience in college matters a lot. But Kansas doesn't have a single NBA prospect? Will they be able to win it all with a roster like that?

I've felt this way the entire off-season about Kansas and even Bama. Bidunga really seems like the only NBA guy on Kansas and Self doesn't rely on freshman much. I don't really see the NBA guys on Bama either.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I kind of understand why Kansas is #1 in the polls but I kind of don't either. I saw this in an article about the Champions Classic next week (as an aside - when are they going to replace Michigan State with UConn?).

According to the latest ESPN.com NBA mock draft, Duke features three of the Top 10 projected picks next summer in No. 1 Cooper Flagg, No. 6 Kon Knueppel and No. 8 Khaman Maluach, with Tyrese Proctor at 28.

For Kentucky, Koby Brea and Jaxson Robinson are considered NBA prospects.

Kansas and Michigan State don’t have any Top 100 prospects, per ESPN.

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I realize that experience in college matters a lot. But Kansas doesn't have a single NBA prospect? Will they be able to win it all with a roster like that?

I've felt this way the entire off-season about Kansas and even Bama. Bidunga really seems like the only NBA guy on Kansas and Self doesn't rely on freshman much. I don't really see the NBA guys on Bama either.

It depends. Cam Spencer certainly wasn't an NBA prospect, until he was. Same with Christian Braun. Great college players are great college players and usually outperform one and done freshmen. I think the biggest lesson in the portal era is that relying on one and done freshmen is a losing strategy. If you have more than one starting for you, your team is going to be lacking in experience. I'd say this means Duke isn't going to win a championship. Nor is Kentucky.

Elmarko Jackson was the one guy on the KU roster who might have made a sophomore leap and would be on the top 100 list, but he's out for the year.

 

[DogMania]

I kind of understand why Kansas is #1 in the polls but I kind of don't either. I saw this in an article about the Champions Classic next week (as an aside - when are they going to replace Michigan State with UConn?).

According to the latest ESPN.com NBA mock draft, Duke features three of the Top 10 projected picks next summer in No. 1 Cooper Flagg, No. 6 Kon Knueppel and No. 8 Khaman Maluach, with Tyrese Proctor at 28.

For Kentucky, Koby Brea and Jaxson Robinson are considered NBA prospects.

Kansas and Michigan State don’t have any Top 100 prospects, per ESPN.

More than 50 NBA scouts expected for Champions Classic | Zagsblog

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I realize that experience in college matters a lot. But Kansas doesn't have a single NBA prospect? Will they be able to win it all with a roster like that?

On a completely unrelated topic (yup doing what I criticize others of doing, but this thread probably deserves to go off the rails) that I was thinking about the other day when checking UK's box score where Koby Brea scored 18 on 7-8 and 4-4 from 3. He and Mahaney will forever be linked since Hurley took Mahaney over Brea. Was surprised that the writer list Brea as an NBA prospect, though the kid knows how to knock down the long ball.

Now Mahaney is considered a better all around player, but it will be interesting to see which one has the bigger impact for their team. Note that we get 2 years of Aidan while UK only has Koby for 1. You also after factor in what need each player fits in the roster, though having a player that can knock down three is at an impressive rate fits UConn system. Early brought in Aidan to help run the offense, while Koby seems to be more just the scorer. I didn't see the game so I'm not sure how within the flow he got his points. Also, you have to take into account their ability to defend their position. Aidan has some work to do on that end of the floor and I have no idea how Koby is as a defender.

Note that I'm not implying that Hurley took the wrong player. It's only 1 official game for each. Mahaney had a good second half in the exhibition game and had some solid minutes in the last game, albeit he didn't score. I'm rooting for him. I wonder if he's feeling some extra pressure with so much competition at the guard positions. I think he'll be fine as he learns the system. Lastly, his role as far as scoring will likely be different than Koby's due to the system and the players around each of them. Koby will likely score more per game. So their value to the team and to winning might be hard to measure.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[HooperScooper]

It depends. Cam Spencer certainly wasn't an NBA prospect, until he was. Same with Christian Braun.

I was thinking about that also. I don't know if Tristen Newton was considered a top 100 NBA prospect at this time last year either. But UConn also had Castle and Clingan, who were both considered possible lottery picks.

Sheppard from Kentucky wasn't on anyone's NBA radar either. Was Dalton Knecht being touted at this time last year?

We'll see how it plays out but I thought it was noteworthy that Kansas doesn't have a single NBA prospect for next year's draft on their roster. Seems strange.

 

[aceboon]

I was thinking about that also. I don't know if Tristen Newton was considered a top 100 NBA prospect at this time last year either. But UConn also had Castle and Clingan, who were both considered possible lottery picks.

Sheppard from Kentucky wasn't on anyone's NBA radar either. Was Dalton Knecht being touted at this time last year?

We'll see how it plays out but I thought it was noteworthy that Kansas doesn't have a single NBA prospect for next year's draft on their roster. Seems strange.

I know you're referencing ESPN but I don't understand how Robinson is considered anymore of an NBA prospect than Storr is, and Bidunga should be one as well

 

[Edward Sargent]

I kind of understand why Kansas is #1 in the polls but I kind of don't either. I saw this in an article about the Champions Classic next week (as an aside - when are they going to replace Michigan State with UConn?).

According to the latest ESPN.com NBA mock draft, Duke features three of the Top 10 projected picks next summer in No. 1 Cooper Flagg, No. 6 Kon Knueppel and No. 8 Khaman Maluach, with Tyrese Proctor at 28.

For Kentucky, Koby Brea and Jaxson Robinson are considered NBA prospects.

Kansas and Michigan State don’t have any Top 100 prospects, per ESPN.

More than 50 NBA scouts expected for Champions Classic | Zagsblog

By ADAM ZAGORIA More than 50 NBA […]

www.zagsblog.com

I realize that experience in college matters a lot. But Kansas doesn't have a single NBA prospect? Will they be able to win it all with a roster like that?

no

 

[UC1995]

who doesn't get it, the writer or Storr? Storr said winning is his main focus, what is your issue with that?

He is looking at statistics that make you a better player. Our players sacrifice themselves for the better good of the team. They are complete players who don't care about stats. Sure he wants to win but us he willing to allow others to thrive to allow that to happen. Doesn't sound like it to me.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I know you're referencing ESPN but I don't understand how Robinson is considered anymore of an NBA prospect than Storr is, and Bidunga should be one as well

Bidunga absolutely is. But when Dickenson came back, he became a bench player, like Donovan behind Adama. So next year he'll likely profile as a draft pick.

KU happens to have 3 really good college player seniors who have a reason why the NBA wouldn't draft them. Harris doesn't shoot well enough. Dickenson is too slow and hasn't shown enough as a rim protector. KJ Adams doesn't shoot at all really and despite looking like he should be Rodmanesque on the glass, doesn't rebound worth a crap either. All three might show they've improved enough to get drafted.

That top 100 list is going to be missing some names of guys who get drafted and some freshmen projected as 1st round picks will not come close to being draft worthy. Happens every year.