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Message: [QUOTE="blkknight1, post: 5196187, member: 2169"] Freshman that have never won anything as opposed freshman that have never won anything as opposed to a veteran team that has players that while they weren’t all major contributors have titles(early season tourney titles, reg and post season conference title, national titles). This team is like then 2012 team off the natty they had a ton coming back from a team that won a title added a freshman phenomenon had a second year player that was expected to step up. A backup pg who was expected to step into the starters role. [/QUOTE]