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Message: [QUOTE="auror, post: 4246513, member: 1329"] Here's how the teams that lost lottery players did from last year vs. this year: [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Player[/TD] [TD]Record With[/TD] [TD]Record Next Year[/TD] [TD]NCAA Tourny Seed WIth[/TD] [TD]NCAA Tourny Seed Next Year[/TD] [TD]Better or worse season?[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Cade Cunningham[/TD] [TD]21-9 (13-8)[/TD] [TD]15-15 (8-10)[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Way worse[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Evan Mobley[/TD] [TD]25-8 (16-6)[/TD] [TD]26-7 (15-7)[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]Slightly worse (likely much worse NCAA result)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Scottie Barnes[/TD] [TD]18-7 (12-5)[/TD] [TD]17-14 (10-11)[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Way worse[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Jalen Suggs[/TD] [TD]31-1 (17-0)[/TD] [TD]27-3+ (15-1)[/TD] [TD]1 overall[/TD] [TD]1 overall[/TD] [TD]Slightly worse unless they win NCAAs[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Franz Wagner[/TD] [TD]23-5 (15-4)[/TD] [TD]18-14+ (11-10)[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]11[/TD] [TD]Way worse.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Davion Mitchell[/TD] [TD]28-2 (13-1)[/TD] [TD]27-6+ (14-5)[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]Slightly worse unless they win NCAAs[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ziare Williams[/TD] [TD]14-13 (10-11)[/TD] [TD]16-16 (9-13)[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Slightly worse [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]James Bouknight[/TD] [TD]15-8 (12-7)[/TD] [TD][B]23-10 (13-6)[/B][/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD][LEFT][B]5[/B][/LEFT][/TD] [TD][B]Slightly better[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Joshua Primo[/TD] [TD]26-7 (19-2)[/TD] [TD]19-13+ (9-10)[/TD] [TD]2[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]Way worse[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Chris Duarte[/TD] [TD]21-7 (15-5)[/TD] [TD]20-14 (12-10)[/TD] [TD]7[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Way worse[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] We're the only team to have a better conference record and the only team to get a better NCAA seed (Gonzaga matched and could not exceed). Context obviously matters (leagues are easier/harder, teams lost other guys, etc.), but take this as overwhelming evidence that it's really hard to lose a lottery talent and make forward progress as a program. But we did it. That's one of the main reasons I don't think this season was a failure. [/QUOTE]

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